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Old 03-24-2007, 05:07 PM
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I am thinking of putting a stall on my car. The problem is that I don't understand what a stall really does. I know there is a reason that GM didn't put a higher RPM stall on cars for a reason, so what is the effects of a stall on a tranny. So what RPM stall should (if I do it) I get? I do just as much highway driving as I do city driving. Also would I need a tranny cooler? Thanks in advanced.
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A stall allows you to take off from a stop and when you hit the gas(to the floor) your engines RPMs go as high as your stall. I have a yank 3600 and love it, its always worked well and never had problems. It drives like a stock one until you hit the gas and then you really appriciate it. Gas mileage is unchanged and highway driving is the same.
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Is it harder on the tranny? Also does it effect your launch from a roll, like 45mph?
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It won't be harder on your tranny as long as you have a good transmission cooler mounted near the radiator. You'll also want a shift kit. How old is your transmission? Has it been rebuilt?
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3000 or better. Anything less is uncivalized.
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3600 here!! best mod yet!! contact manufacter and they will sell u the correct verter for your setup. and answer any and all your ?
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oh i forgot! don't spend less than 600 bucks or u wont be happy!
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Originally Posted by grn95t/a
oh i forgot! don't spend less than 600 bucks or u wont be happy!
not true. dont believe the hype yank and vig are awesome but you dont have to spend 700 for a good converter. i got my stock converter built and it works awesome. you just have to find a great transmission shop that specializes in race trannies and has a good reputation. i found an awesome shop here in nyc that builds stuff for high horsepower applications for ihra guys as well as stuff for us street guys. they have been in business for over 20 years. had them do my entire tranny and its great. they have a crazy warranty as well. the converter wasnt well under 400 bux.
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My tranny is not so good right now, I think. It will not shift under full acceleration. I am hoping it is only the throttle positioning sensor. I have had problems out of the tranny before with solinoids and I know it was rebuilt over 3x,xxx miles ago.
Old 03-24-2007, 09:24 PM
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Oh and there is no way I would ever buy one that is more than $300 I might look for one used, as long as it is pretty new.
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Originally Posted by Ls1Bait
A stall allows you to take off from a stop and when you hit the gas(to the floor) your engines RPMs go as high as your stall. I have a yank 3600 and love it, its always worked well and never had problems. It drives like a stock one until you hit the gas and then you really appriciate it. Gas mileage is unchanged and highway driving is the same.
thats one way a stall works. This is considered "flashing" the stall which takes it from a dead stop to that rpm and launching. The alternative is letting the stall slip at the line then flashing the last little bit. I'm no expert but this is the way it was explained to me.
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without getting too technical, from what i understand a torque converter with a higher stall lets more fluid pressure build up in the converter and , in turn, turns the input shaft of the tranny harder and increases the acceleration.
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Great read for understanding high stall TCs and the numbers and terms associated with them.
http://www.converter.cc/tech_talk/tech_main.htm

Great 6-page writeup on how torque converters work
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm
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Buy one, you will not regret. But your tires might not like it too much.
Stay in the 2800-3200 range.
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An Edge Racing Converter runs about $525 and a lot of guys are very happy, probably the most popular brand with the b-body guys. Closest thing to a complaint guys have is they hit the tires HARD as such a few guys have gone back to Yank for a softer launch but still say good things about the Edge.

Now IMO you spend under $500 and you will likely be disappointed.
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Well i am not sure what to expect with one, so it will be hard to be disappointed. I am still not sure what it will do to the car and the tranny down the road.
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Anyone know why my car will not shift at WOT? It just bounces off the rev limiter untiil I lay off about half way.
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I'll just say that this is one of many areas not to skimp on...A converter can make or break your combo and everything is a combo...Vigilante recommends a converter stall speed to be 500-700rpm below the torque peak of the motor (some go as much as 900 rpm) for a street/strip car...Call a reputable company and get their advice on the proper stall for you combo...All I can say is that I've had my Vig 3600 since 1996 and its been flawless...Best $700 I ever spent...

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I just don't want to spend a lot of money. But talking to people on other sites, I am finding out that the more you spend, the better the quality. I just can't see myself spending that much on something that could be detrimental to my tranny since it is not of the best performance.
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trust me you will be happy with a stall..but you might wanna get your existing problems solved first and then see about a stall..i did a 3200 frm edge street series and i sure it will be awesome when i fire the car up for the first time..andre at edge was so knowledgeableand answered all my questions about a stall and the best stall speed for my combination


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