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Why do some people say you can't run Bosch O2 sensors in LT1's?

Old 08-20-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Why do some people say you can't run Bosch O2 sensors in LT1's?

What's up with that? I'm running some right now and seem to be reading correctly.
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you can. but they SUCK. and wont read correctly for long.
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I think it's hilarious people act like Bosch work fine in everything but the LT1. Like it's something special. I am positive theres tens of thousands of LT1's running Bosch O2s and are running just fine. A few people have issues and next thing you know everyones an expert and claiming they know. Bosch invented the O2 sensor and are the largest supplier to the aftermarket and the OE suppliers. I'd be willing to bet the Delcos are nothing but bosch sensors anyways seeing as how Delco doesn't manufactuer it's own parts.

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They run fine, tuned my 9 second LT-1 with them for many years with no problem.
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Opinions are like ********, everyones got one, and they all stink.

I personally don't use any Bosch Products.

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Originally Posted by Fbodynightmare
Opinions are like ********, everyones got one, and they all stink.

I personally don't use any Bosch Products.

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Your car is loaded with Bosch products, half the electrical is probably bosch.
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My Bosch O2's work fine.
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I understand what your saying. and for the most part, I agree. but Im a GM tech, and I seen a few bosh 02's come in the shop bad, and installed a couple myself, that have all gone bad VERY soon. never seen a delco 02 sensor bad that didnt have tens of thousands of miles on it. but the bosch's Ive seen personally, didnt last but a few hundred miles. and, to make it worse, it wasnt that they didnt read at all, they read inaccuratly. which is harder to determine the cause of the car not runing properly. Im sure your right, and lots of them do just fine. I know they wouldnt make a product that wouldnt work at all. but from what Ive seen, why not spend the little extra money on the delco ones that you can have full confidence in will last a long time? thats just my .02
BTW, 383LT1S10, cant open your webpage. very interested to see your buildup, as my 383 will likely get yanked and go in my 86Iroc. carbed though.
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Sorry about that. Fixed my link. i haven't started the 383 yet as I am waiting till I get the bugs worked out of the Megasquirt and the EDIS side of things first. As of right now the engine is a stock LT1.
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I ran Bosch's in my old '95 and they seemed to be fine.
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i didn't have any luck with bosch sensors in my 94 with LT's i tried them a couple times and i kept on getting a lean on bank 2 code finally returned those sensors and got some ACdelco's and its been fine ever since

some car seemed to be affected more by them than others either way my car will never have bosch o2 sensors again, plus the ACdelco's are cheaper just not as readily available around here
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Bosch o2's made my car run rich , I switched to ACdelco and now it is fine.
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The issue as has been described to me is that the Bosch 02 does not have a quick enough response time for the LT1 PCM.

Can anyone offer supporting/descenting information on this issue?
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Originally Posted by 383LT1S10
A few people have issues
Quite a bit more than a "few" people have had issues with them.

Not saying they will never work, but I would stick with the delcos since that's what the engine/computer was designed to work with and almost no one has any issues with them like the bosch ones.
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I can't believe the LT1 pcm is "Too Fast" for the Bosch O2's seeing as how they work just fine in modern vehicles that are 10x more powerful and faster than the LT1 pcm. I mean the Lt pcm is nice but it's not space aged.
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Originally Posted by theroad64
The issue as has been described to me is that the Bosch 02 does not have a quick enough response time for the LT1 PCM.

Can anyone offer supporting/descenting information on this issue?
You posting from the sandbox?
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Originally Posted by 383LT1S10
I can't believe the LT1 pcm is "Too Fast" for the Bosch O2's seeing as how they work just fine in modern vehicles that are 10x more powerful and faster than the LT1 pcm. I mean the Lt pcm is nice but it's not space aged.
I agree I don't really think the issue is related to the computer, because a lot of LS1 people have had problems with the bosch sensors as well (do a search on here for some examples) and the ls1 pcm is completely different.
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
I agree I don't really think the issue is related to the computer, because a lot of LS1 people have had problems with the bosch sensors as well (do a search on here for some examples) and the ls1 pcm is completely different.
Yeah but isnt the 96+ LT1 pcm very similiar to the LS1 pcm. It can even use some LS1 diagnostics programs (HPtuners).
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Well yeah I guess it could be a common issue with all GM computers. don't really know.

just sayin that they seem to occasionally cause problems on fbods in general.
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I own a 97 and 00 camaro. Bosch in the ls1's suck as in I put them in and reset the check engine light and with 50 miles the light is right back on and car is running like crap. Factory 02 sensors went over 60,000 miles with no problems. I can't say alot for the lt1 due to the fact the 383 Le2 h/c/i is now complete and awaiting a dynotune. It seems the bosch's sensor is to shrouded and people say you can drill holes in it or pry the slits open to expose the sensor. Thats suppose to fix it.

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