ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

Now, the price difference is HUGE.

Kooks:
Kooks Emission Headers for LT1 with Y-Pipe + Cats
Total Price: $1,544.63



Pacesetter:
Pacesetter LTs ceramic coated
Price: $429.69

Pacesetter Y-Pipe
Price: $129.99
Total Price: $559.68


Now, i notice kooks has different sized headers for different cars. I guess i get the cheap ones cause my car is going to be bolt ons for a while... but does that mean im going to need new headers if i do engine work?

What about the stepped headers, does that really make that big of an improvement to spend an extra grand? or should I just put that extra grand into a torque arm and just get the pacesetters?

Ironxcross

iTrader: (8)

I went with the pacesetter longtubes, ory, cat, and a hooker aerochamber muffler. The whole thing totalled around $1000 or so with installation and stuff. For the price its really hard to beat the pacesetters although the kooks from what I hear are AMAZING headers. Its really up to how much you want to spend.

speed_demon24

iTrader: (6)

You get what you pay for.

rob97ss

iTrader: (1)

I went with kooks

1bdbrd

iTrader: (12)

That must explain why people have to clearance things to get the overpriced and over rated Kooks to fit. My pacesetters fit just fine and the y pipe fits even better.

ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

ive heard people say that kooks bolt right on, and others say they have to modify stuff also

TDavanzo

iTrader: (3)

If you do it right once, you won't ever have to do it again. I personally am going to buy the Pacesetters, I already have the y-pipe sitting right next to me and it's decent quality. If I have didn't have a tig welder I would have sent it back though it has one pin-hole in the welds. No biggie if you have a shop but, I feel bad for those who don't have welders and stuff.

ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

My friend welds for me, he did my SFCs for me... so I'm in luck Im just confused on why the Kooks costs so much

Schweet97Z

iTrader: (35)

Because they can. Think about it, they are the only company out that offers a stepped stainless header for the lt-1 with great quality. I cant wait to see this new LS1Tech sponsors set of stainless headers for the lt-1. They are claiming to be around $400-$425 shipped, for complete stainless steel longtubes.

ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

coated also and stepped? thatd be sick.

oh yeah, and i noticed the kooks y-pipe has cats, the pacesetter doesn't... but i assume itll go right to my nice stock cat?

Schweet97Z

iTrader: (35)

Cats rob power. Id stay away from them if at all possible. If not, then no, longtubes will not work with stock y-pipe. If you get a header that only come with an off roady y pipe, you can get bullet style high flow cats and weld them in place.

ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

i need cats, i want this to be a street legal car

yeah and i forgot about my pre-cats. gay

Slowmaro95Z28

Go Pacesetter!!! Kooks are overpriced and really don't fit well. I've used both and I'd take the Pacesetters any day. Also notice a better low end gain with the Pacesetters.

ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

but with pacesetter, they do not have cats in the y-pipe, ill bomb emissions no?

Pntbll309

iTrader: (33)

You can also get a set of P/S's for around $500 shipped off Ebay.If I remember correctly they have emissions and non emissions headers.

Slowmaro95Z28

As I said, get a y pipe made with cats. It souldn't be too expensive other than the price of cats.

ThoR294

iTrader: (6)

where can I get one that will fit right onto the pacesetter emissions headers?

fergymoto

iTrader: (129)

You will probably still fail emissions anyway. I don't know about Jersey, but in PA any relocation or altering of the catalytic converters will fail you.

LS1speedy

iTrader: (3)

You might pass the visual with LT headers & catted Y pipe but you definitely will not pass the sniffer test without cats.

Slowmaro95Z28

Go to a local exhaust shop and tell them what you need.