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fbodyfreek Jan 2, 2008 07:16 PM

which lca's??
 
(sigh) choices, choices, choices... lol. are you guys with aftermarket lca's using standard ones, one-way adjustable, or two-way? is it really just a matter of how much tunning ability i want from them? thanks.

ABA383 Jan 2, 2008 07:47 PM

I run the Spohn rod ended LCAs...They are double adjustable and very easy to adjust...Also with rod ends you have no binding which can occur with the poly stuff...The draw back is that they are a bit noisey...My car is not a DD, but the noise doesn't bother me at all...Whatever you get look to adjustables as adjustability is absolutely essential for a good, effective suspension...

--Alan

meangreenformula Jan 2, 2008 07:50 PM

I've got UMIs, non adjustable, with their relocation brackets. Works great.

koolaid_kid Jan 2, 2008 07:57 PM

This question has been discussed frequently in the handling and suspension section. I participated in an excellent one, and concluded that I want the rod/poly single adjustable ones. Poly on the body side because it eliminates any chance of the knock or rattle that some owners complain about. Rod on the suspension side because it allows articulation, which is what ABA383 was talking about. Single adjustable because once they are set, I will have little need to adjust them. The moderator who was also in the thread admitted that was the same setup he was running, and for the same reasons.
Best of luck.
And I am going UMI because they are of high quality and are an actively participating sponsor of this forum.

Smokinlt1 Jan 2, 2008 07:58 PM

I've been using Lakewood LCAs for about 5yrs now with no problems.

taner Jan 2, 2008 08:16 PM

BMR all the way. first class customer service, great prices. and their stuff flat out works.

i have gone to rods ends about 2 years ago, a little more hard core, lol! poly ones worked great too!

fordeater Jan 2, 2008 09:08 PM

I really like UMI's stuff

Formula350 Jan 2, 2008 10:47 PM

I had Lakewoods in my 91, for what it's worth.

fbodyfreek Jan 3, 2008 05:55 PM

thanks guys, i'm down to BMR or UMI one-way adjustables. cool

IH8FORD Jan 3, 2008 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by taner (Post 8410712)
BMR all the way. first class customer service, great prices. and their stuff flat out works.

i have gone to rods ends about 2 years ago, a little more hard core, lol! poly ones worked great too!

I use the poly ADJ. BMR. love em. Also BMR is a great company to deal with.

bricez28 Jan 3, 2008 06:07 PM

my car came with the boxed hotchkis....i have no reason to change them

speed_demon24 Jan 3, 2008 06:28 PM

I went with midwest chassis dbl adjustable LCA's and there relocation brackets. All LCA's are basically the same, it's just a chromeoly tube with bushings or rod ends on it. If you go with rod end's make sure they come with quality ones.

jakesz28 Jan 3, 2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by speed_demon24 (Post 8416805)
I went with midwest chassis dbl adjustable LCA's and there relocation brackets. All LCA's are basically the same, it's just a chromeoly tube with bushings or rod ends on it. If you go with rod end's make sure they come with quality ones.


Those are what I'm running next year. I had UMI double adjustable w/poly bushings last year. Just getting a little serious this time around.

matt94z Jan 3, 2008 07:17 PM

I have used Lakewoods in the past(first mod many years ago) they were great. I now have Madman dbl adjustables on my 94 and BMR's on my 00. All are very nice products.

MrElectric03 Jan 3, 2008 09:44 PM

My opinion is the BMRs. I have the non-adjustable chromoly. For a race car maybe adjustables would be better but for my street car I am very happy with these.

fbodyfreek Jan 3, 2008 11:00 PM

well let me throw this in there too.. what about the panhard bar? they sell the lca's and panhard bar in packages so i'm assuming they go together pretty well. what exactly does the bar do? eliminate lateral movement? and should i just buy the package? thanks.

razorguy Jan 4, 2008 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by meangreenformula (Post 8410502)
I've got UMIs, non adjustable, with their relocation brackets. Works great.

Same :D

koolaid_kid Jan 4, 2008 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by fbodyfreek (Post 8418702)
well let me throw this in there too.. what about the panhard bar? they sell the lca's and panhard bar in packages so i'm assuming they go together pretty well. what exactly does the bar do? eliminate lateral movement? and should i just buy the package? thanks.

If I were to do it again, I would get the UMI package. You don't really save much money, but they all work the same.
The panhard bar allows you to center the rear left to right. As a rule, the fbodies come from the factory with the passenger's wheel sticking out further than the driver's side. Mine was off by 13/16". It is now perfect.
When you install the LCAs, you need to take it to the alignment shop and have it 4 wheel aligned. Be sure and talk to the tech doing the work and show him where they adjust.

UMI Performance Jan 5, 2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by fbodyfreek (Post 8410233)
(sigh) choices, choices, choices... lol. are you guys with aftermarket lca's using standard ones, one-way adjustable, or two-way? is it really just a matter of how much tunning ability i want from them? thanks.

Deciding between adjustable and non-adjustable is going to be based on your driving habits and plans for the vehicle. Here are some basics to follow-

www.umiperformance.com/2015 - These work great on street cars, cruisers and drag racers but are no recommended for serious handling.

www.umiperformance.com/2016 - These also work great on street cars that see some auto cross. The rod end helps to reduce rear end bind while the poly bushing bolts to the chassis of the vehicle to absorb unwanted road noise. The adjustment is used when installing after market rear ends that may not sit centered in the wheel wells.

www.umiperformance.com/2017 - These are recommended for serious racers that want no bushing deflection. They are recommended for drag cars and road race cars. The adjustment is on-car and works excellent for centering the rear end to fit those big tires under the car.

Please let me know if I can answer any more questions.

Thank you!
Ryan

transamws6_97 Jan 5, 2008 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by UMI Performance (Post 8427000)
Deciding between adjustable and non-adjustable is going to be based on your driving habits and plans for the vehicle. Here are some basics to follow-

www.umiperformance.com/2015 - These work great on street cars, cruisers and drag racers but are no recommended for serious handling.

www.umiperformance.com/2016 - These also work great on street cars that see some auto cross. The rod end helps to reduce rear end bind while the poly bushing bolts to the chassis of the vehicle to absorb unwanted road noise. The adjustment is used when installing after market rear ends that may not sit centered in the wheel wells.

www.umiperformance.com/2017 - These are recommended for serious racers that want no bushing deflection. They are recommended for drag cars and road race cars. The adjustment is on-car and works excellent for centering the rear end to fit those big tires under the car.

Please let me know if I can answer any more questions.

Thank you!
Ryan

So if my car is a daily driver and sees the track a few times a year non adjustable would be fine for me right? I never auto cross but i do hit the twisties on the road every once in a while


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