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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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any of you guys using 1.7rr,s on your lt1s if so can you tell me where to get a set tried jegs and summit no luck at all?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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I know Scorpion makes a 1.7RR. They are priced great and I have yet to find one complaint about them. Do a search if you don't want to take my word for it.

Lots of people carry them on Ebay.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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1.7s seem a little steep and sloppy for a Lt1 setup.
Unless you're trying for some obscene lift, it seems like picking the proper cam in the first place
would be a better option.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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If you are going for the STEALTH approach 1.7s are great just as long as you have bolt-ons to compliment the added valve lift... if you buy 1.7s YOU DEFINATELY WILL NEED new valvesprings!
personally i would prefer to do an aftermarket cam with 1.6 rockers and of course valvesprings...
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
1.7s seem a little steep and sloppy for a Lt1 setup.
Unless you're trying for some obscene lift, it seems like picking the proper cam in the first place
would be a better option.
sloppy??anyways just looking for a part number or link to a company that deals in 1.7s for lt1s scorpions may be it.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Scorpion makes a good rocker arm. Make sure to check things out before you make the move.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by snk-huntr
sloppy??anyways just looking for a part number or link to a company that deals in 1.7s for lt1s scorpions may be it.
Sorry, I didn't intend it to sound like a flame.

Rockers introduce "slop" when they magnify the lobe's shape.
The higher the ratio, the "sloppier" it gets and the more stress it puts on the valvetrain.
The hotcam was not designed to be used with 1.7 rockers, it was designed for 1.6.
You're probably not going to break anything, it's just not an optimized setup.

I did a few searches, I didn't find them for LT1s.
Lots of BBC and LS1 though.
I could have sworn I used to see SBC and LT1 models, I just can't remember where.


Originally Posted by 96lt1m6
If you are going for the STEALTH approach 1.7s are great
Yes, because nothing says "I'm stock" like big blue rockers with scorpions on them visible in the oil fill cap.

If you want stealth, get a cam with very little overlap and designed to work with stock rockers.
That will give you maximum performance without giving away the dirty little secrets

What you're doing here is trying to make additional performance "on the cheap"
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, just understand the pros and cons of the decision.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by snk-huntr
sloppy??anyways just looking for a part number or link to a company that deals in 1.7s for lt1s scorpions may be it.
SCP 1026 Scorpion 1.7 7/16 stud.
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I made very good power with Scorpion 1.7's on a crane 227 cam and more recently on a cc305. Never had any issues with valve float pulling to 6200. Got mine to Flatlanderracing.com for $230, and you'll need good pushrods and guide plates.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1-xjs
SCP 1026 Scorpion 1.7 7/16 stud.
Yup, punch that in google (SCP1026) and the first two links will take you there. I would post the links but they aren't sponsors. I'm curious to see what 1.7s would do with the hotcam.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ClovisAutoMotion
I made very good power with Scorpion 1.7's on a crane 227 cam and more recently on a cc305. Never had any issues with valve float pulling to 6200. Got mine to Flatlanderracing.com for $230, and you'll need good pushrods and guide plates.
Do you know if they sell the self-aligning?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
Scorpion makes a good rocker arm. Make sure to check things out before you make the move.
very good idea haha
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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I'm not sure how rollers are about this since they're CNCed, but with stamp steels the stock 1.5s are more like 1.4s and they almost all differ in actual ratio. Not to mention the ratio changes through out the lift of the rocker! IF CNCed exhibit the same problem, then running a 1.7 might actually net you closer to 1.65.

I know Crane makes some actual 1.6s that are 1.6 through out the lift. Those are stamped steels though, so just a little offtopic factoid.

I could've swore I remember seeing a thread about someone actually running 1.8s O_O
1.6 Int/1.7 Exh are a common setup too though.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by snk-huntr
Do you know if they sell the self-aligning?
I don't think Scorpion makes SA 1.7rr's, just 1.6's.
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Originally Posted by spudnick3119
I don't think Scorpion makes SA 1.7rr's, just 1.6's.
Right, they are NSA, hence the need for guide plates and hardened or chromoly pushrods
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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what do you think about running 1.7s on a le2 heads and cam set up? Just ordered mine and need some RRs
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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anyone have the part number for the scorpion 1.6 nsa rockers and where i could buy them?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whammer33024
anyone have the part number for the scorpion 1.6 nsa rockers and where i could buy them?
SCP1003 and available from the info listed above.

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what do you think about running 1.7s on a le2 heads and cam set up? Just ordered mine and need some RRs
I don't think 1.7s and a LE2 setup would be happy together as the lift rates would be more than the springs can handle.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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I'm getting ready to run 1.7rr's. It'll be on the stock cam though. I just need to get some better valve springs (I was told not to use the hotcam spring kit I got, even though the hotcam on 1.6's has a higher lift rating than the stocker on 1.7's), guide plates, pushrods, and probably lifters too. I was going to get the Scorpions, because I found a site where they were $222, but found a guy selling some Angus Racing 1.7RR's on camaroz28.com for $150, so I jumped on those.
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
Rockers introduce "slop" when they magnify the lobe's shape.
The higher the ratio, the "sloppier" it gets and the more stress it puts on the valvetrain.
The hotcam was not designed to be used with 1.7 rockers, it was designed for 1.6.
You're probably not going to break anything, it's just not an optimized setup.
Isn't "slop" what pigs eat?
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