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Old 08-19-2015, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fastfalcon94
That design looks better. The tick plates are just big washers so there is some left/right play. I centered it the best I could. The CNC'd lip seems like a better design to me.
I updated the drawing -- was missing the bolt hole locations and sizes.

The tick shim plates are perfect if the shims needed are around ~.175" from what I recall. Basically when shims are added and you notice that your slave is no longer registering on the transmission front plate concentric ring, there could be benefit from this the type of spacer I posted
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Originally Posted by Joey@Tick
  1. Measurement "A" is the distance between the surface of the bellhousing that meets the transmission to the tip of the pressure plate fingers. To get an accurate measurement, the clutch must be torqued properly.
  2. Measurement "B" is the distance between the throwout bearing surface to the transmission surface that meets the bellhousing. To get an accurate measurement, the slave spring must be removed and the bearing must be fully seated at the bottom of it's travel; resting on the slave's base.
Once you've got your two measurements, make sure that measurement "B" is ~1/16" to 1/8" LESS than measurement "A". If you come up with more than 1/8", add an appropriately sized shim between the slave and the transmission in order to get the measurements where they need to be.

If there is no difference between the two measurements, or if "B" is greater than "A", there could be a problem with clutch engagement which could result in premature clutch slip and eventually a total failure.
On your webpage, you then state

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...im-kit-3-pack/

"Your “A minus B” measurement should be 0.125 to 0.200 for adequate bearing travel and to allow for clutch wear."

So which is it? 1/16" to 1/8" or 1/8" to 1/5" ????
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Someone needs to correct this ASAP.
Old 11-05-2015, 05:14 PM
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I have installed the stage 2 clutch on my car, a 2007 Saturn ion 2.4. The clutch did not come with the spacers or the bolts that are being talked about. Can someone please tell me where I can get these parts? I am desperate for them a I have not been able to drive my car for 2 weeks. Thanks in advance
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I got my shims from Tick Performance
Old 11-05-2015, 10:21 PM
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So a Monster stage 2 with the 18lb flywheel won't need to be shimmed in a 97' C5?
What about balanced to match the factory clutch?
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Originally Posted by IRNMADN
So a Monster stage 2 with the 18lb flywheel won't need to be shimmed in a 97' C5?
I may have missed part of the conversation, so excuse me when I say the only way you know if it does or does not need to be shimmed is to measure and find out. Does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by montgom
I may have missed part of the conversation, so excuse me when I say the only way you know if it does or does not need to be shimmed is to measure and find out. Does that make sense?
Of course it does. In defense of the op that was the point of his first post.
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Oh, it makes sense. Asking the question simply because of the second post in this thread by SNL/Monster Clutch.
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Originally Posted by IRNMADN
Oh, it makes sense. Asking the question simply because of the second post in this thread by SNL/Monster Clutch.
Point well taken. Wondered about that myself.
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Hello all

I've been trying to install my clutch for proper disengagement on my 2002 C5 Z06. I am using a Monster LT1S clutch with a stock slave cylinder.

I have found that my "measurement A" is the same as "measurement B". Therefore I need the opposite of a shim:

A shorter TOB or slave assembly

or

A clutch assembly with lower clutch spring forks.

However neither of these seem possible without modifying my equipment.

Am I doing something wrong? I measured dimension B with the clutch bleeder open.
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so i have a Mcleod RXT. if i jack up the car, put it in first, and push the clutch to the floor, the wheels will spin. i have to be very careful shifting also, like 2nd or 4th i need to not slam it will grind. and downshifting i have to rev match. is that a tranny issue, a tick master adjustment issue, or a shim issue? i have the shim 3 pack and the tick master itself is installed.
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How high off the floor is your pedal? First thing I'd try is making your rid longer (giggeddy)
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
How high off the floor is your pedal? First thing I'd try is making your rid longer (giggeddy)
It's higher than the brake pedal, for sure.
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Sticky this ! :d
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Originally Posted by kissmy99ss
Sticky this ! :d
it's already a sticky



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Originally Posted by montgom
On your webpage, you then state

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...im-kit-3-pack/

"Your “A minus B” measurement should be 0.125 to 0.200 for adequate bearing travel and to allow for clutch wear."

So which is it? 1/16" to 1/8" or 1/8" to 1/5" ????
Has this discrepancy been addressed?
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
Has this discrepancy been addressed?
I run .105
Old 11-15-2016, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sail Hatan
so i have a Mcleod RXT. if i jack up the car, put it in first, and push the clutch to the floor, the wheels will spin. i have to be very careful shifting also, like 2nd or 4th i need to not slam it will grind. and downshifting i have to rev match. is that a tranny issue, a tick master adjustment issue, or a shim issue? i have the shim 3 pack and the tick master itself is installed.
bump. this is finally getting addressed, cars apart now so ill report back in a few days. mcleod rt, 28lb flywheel, tick adjustable master. so hopefully it gets sorted out, because the car isn't even fun to shift.
Old 11-21-2016, 01:59 PM
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Never bought an aftermarket clutch kit that needed a shim before. So is the plan supposed to be to buy a ~$800 clutch kit w/ flywheel and then buy the extra shims just incase it was not correctly built? Are stock LS1/T56 mating surfaces that large of a variance? If I am buying a new clutch, PP, Flywheel, Slave, I still need to buy a shim kit to make the new parts fit correctly? This is a stock Bottom, Stock Trans 2001 Camaro.

My apologies if this is common place on RWD setups, I have had transverse AWD and FWD setups till this car. Also been trying to solve the damn sticky pedal BS for last couple weekends. Just finished new MC and still cant get more than 3 gears out of it.


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