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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 02:59 AM
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Well after about 3 years I just picked up a 99 ws6. The 6 spd will not shift into 5th gear. The guy I bought the car from said it didn't do that until he installed the short throw shifter and tole me "it just needs to be adjusted."

Did i get b.s.'ed ? What needs to be my plan of attack here?
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 03:32 AM
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couldnt hurt to take a look at the shifter...what kind of shifter is it?
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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couldnt hurt to take a look at the shifter...what kind of shifter is it?
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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I'm not sure i'll get back to ya on that saturday. What should i look for just adjustment points? Any body have a write up on a short throw install?
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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oh and the car only has 25k on the clock
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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hmm will it just grind? or just jam up and not go? I test drove one with a problem with it not locking into 5th, shop said that the tranny would have to be rebuilt
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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I'm not sure i'll get back to ya on that saturday. What should i look for just adjustment points? Any body have a write up on a short throw install?
you need to remove the console, pretty straight forward. and then you need to remove the screws holding down the factory shifter boot(if its there). and see what kind of shifter it is. and there should be stops for the "front" and "rear" set of gears. The front one is the one that might need adjusted.

Loosen the lock nut, and turn the adjustment screw out, its prolly an allen wrench.

drive the car with that adjustment screw backed out, and see if it goes into 5th better.

If not, the trans might be F'd. let us know
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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nova... bite your tongue on the f'd trans.... i'll play around with the nuts/screws and let you guys know what i experience. Thanks.
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Cross your fingers man, but usually if the shifter is out of adjustment it will have a hard time going into 4th and 5th. The same thing happened to my car a few weeks after I bought it. I didnt worry about it untill last summer when I had Texas Motorsports build me a beefed up t56. They are a sponsor on here and Mike is a good guy to deal with. Ive put about about 6k miles on my unit so far with zero issues.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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also if its not adjustments on the shifter it could be the shifter cup its a plastic piece under the shifter mine broke and i couldnt go into 3rd put a bronze one and it was all good
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okay so there is no adjustment on the shifter. It looks like a piece of s*** to be quite honest with no aftermarket markings. I'll post up pics in a minute.

Also the transmission will go into 5th with the clutch in when not moving. When attempting to engage 5th on the move it grinds.....

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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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pic of the shifter. I just ordered an MGW.... Hopefully the trans is all good, I'm wanting to upgrade the sound system.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:33 AM
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Could be a bent shift fork. A buddies z28 had that happen when he missed 3rd. He slammed it into 6th a couple times and it started working again. Ghetto i know but it is a thought.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:00 AM
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that sounds like an internal issue nothing to do with the shifter
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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lol wow yeah thats ghetto but worth a try. Slam 6th under load or just sitting still?
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Have you figured anything out with your 5th gear problem? It sounds like the same problem I'm having..
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Mine has a problem with 5th too..the only way I can get into it is when I'm coming from 3rd of 4th.. I can't shift into it from 6th of sitting still. It doesn't grind, just completely blocks me out.

I built it with the Tick Stage II Kit, so it has Carbon Fiber Synchro's. It started doing it at the 2500 mile mark, I'm just going to pull it apart and switch the 5th and 6th Synchro Ring around and see what it does.
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Yeah, I cant go down from 6th to 5th at all either.

If I drive normal shifting up though the gears I can get it to go in. But, in order for it to ingage once its in 5th I have to put some force to push it just a little futher to click in gear.

I took the console out last night and adjusted the shifter mutiple times while driving down a back road. It has improved but still nowhere near where it should be. I've had several cars with where syncros went bad and this really just dosent seem like a syncro. Based on some other advice given I am starting to lean towards the shift pad being worn down. Which would give reason for me having to put extra force to it once already in gear.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcfadin85
Yeah, I cant go down from 6th to 5th at all either.

If I drive normal shifting up though the gears I can get it to go in. But, in order for it to ingage once its in 5th I have to put some force to push it just a little futher to click in gear.

I took the console out last night and adjusted the shifter mutiple times while driving down a back road. It has improved but still nowhere near where it should be. I've had several cars with where syncros went bad and this really just dosent seem like a syncro. Based on some other advice given I am starting to lean towards the shift pad being worn down. Which would give reason for me having to put extra force to it once already in gear.
I would bet that is exactly what it is. Have a look.

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Originally Posted by LS123
I would bet that is exactly what it is. Have a look.






Thanks, you just made up my mind with the pics.

I have never been in an m6 tranny, the forks are toward the rear right? I guess I mean, how far does the tranny have to be tore down to get to them? Just trying to get an idea if I could get in there on my own or if I need someone else to do it.
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