Originally Posted by lavoy

thanks for the reply, like i explained on the phone the car is my daily driver and i dont have the time to pull it apart, i basically had to call in favors and have the clutch over nighted and then pull a all nighter to get it done. every bolt was torqued to spec and loctite used, the sound is gone now and its shifting normal again, friday i have another race and we will see how it does, i wont have free time or a helping hand available for a few weeks at least.

Originally Posted by lavoy

who did you talk to? seems to me if others have called complaining about sounds then they should have heard of it before. mine was affecting operation it was hanging up making it not shift.

Originally Posted by lavoy

thanks for the reply, like i explained on the phone the car is my daily driver and i dont have the time to pull it apart, i basically had to call in favors and have the clutch over nighted and then pull a all nighter to get it done. every bolt was torqued to spec and loctite used, the sound is gone now and its shifting normal again, friday i have another race and we will see how it does, i wont have free time or a helping hand available for a few weeks at least.

Originally Posted by Arc00TA

I don't remember at this point, but I had no time to take it out of the car so I got used to it. Other than the noise it was a very good clutch, so I'll assume either A) I did something wrong installing it or B) Maybe got a bad batch of material. I'm not trying to badmouth Monster clutches in any way, just saying I had a noise as well that I couldn't solve. Customer service was great, its just impossible to diagnose things over the phone like that.

Originally Posted by TACE02

You know, a little birdie told me that the guy who makes the monster clutch used to work with the guy that designed the Diamond clutch... when I look at the monster clutch it looks just like my Diamond clutch that was installed by Jason at TDP in Ft. Worth, Texas. If this is in fact the same clutch, I would have to say that someone went cheap on the manufacturing of this monster clutch cause I had my Diamond clutch stage 3 for over 3 years and 25,000 miles and had 0 complaints/problems. I only changed it because a dow pin came loose and fell into the bell housing when my new motor was installed last year and it chewed up my pressure plate, I coulda reused it as it didn't cause any real damage just cosmetic, but I figured why not and had a new stage 3 Diamond clutch installed. I stand by Jason, his work, his abilities, and personality. The friendliest guy to talk to and unfortunately he was screwed over and got nothing in return. So if you continue to have problems feel free to call him (Texas Drivetrain and Performance in Ft. Worth, Texas)and get a Diamond clutch, I am sure he will work with anyone and make you a great offer. I personally will not have anything but a Diamond clutch attached to my 408, unless he designs a dual disk.

Originally Posted by lavoy

I recently decided to give monster clutch a try after years of being a ACT and spec user with little to no complaints from me about either. I spoke to steve on the phone for a while before making my decision to change and i am usually pretty good at sniffing out any BS, my BS sensor didnt go off so i took the plunge.

The companies phone manors/ customer service was perfect, the clutch came packaged very well and in perfect condition. The clutch i chose isnt one listed on their site but its basically a level 5 at a level 3 price. What that means is i got the level 3 6 puck disk but i chose a 11 inch pressure plate instead of the 12 inch so this gives me a clutch rated to level 5 tq and hp numbers with only a slightly stiffer pedal then the level 3 12 inch.

The clutch disk felt and looked well made other then the spring retainers seemed a little "open" for my taste but we shall see if i have any problems with a spring popping out or not.

The pressure plate wasnt to impressive in that the rivets and straps and what not all appeared to be of a stock nature and not extra beefy like i am used to seeing in some other clutches i have owned. Again we shall see how well it stays together, the green paint seemed kinda spray bombed on with over spray all over the place but non on the forks or mating surface so i guess thats ok. Again minor fit and finish details that shouldnt affect performance in any way.

For the flywheel i went with the 18 ib version and it is a very nice piece and it seems very well made, the only complaint i have is i had to install the dowels my self and they just didnt want to go in very easily, i used a mini sledge and wacked them suckers hard and they still only went in about half of the drilled hole distance. This should be enough as i doubt they can come loose, i under stand why they include the dowels since different pressure plates use different ones but since they knew which one i was using pre installing them would have been a nice touch and gave me more peace of mind.

Install went smooth other then my throw out bearing did not want to come off the slave, but after much convincing it let go and i installed the new one. I had a spec clutch in before so i removed the shim and measured the monster set up and came up with 2 1/8 at the pp and bell and 2 at the tb and the tranny for a difference of 1/8 inch which is within the specs steve gave me so i used no shim.

With the spec clutch and the shim the engagement was between half way and 3/4 of the pedal travel, when i first went to drive the monster set up it was like 2 inches off the floor and very grabby, that and the light flywheel meant i stalled the car the first attempt i made in moving it, i adjusted the rod at my pedal in a little and got the engagement point off the floor about 3 inches now which is more to my taste.

First test drive impressions are the clutch is very grabby and at first truly more like the fabled on and off switch we always hear about way more then my spec 3+ was, but this will get better as its broken in and a little glaze or smoothing of the pp and flywheel surface is done. After a few stop and goes i was completely adjusted to the new feel and able to more easily slip the clutch a little off the start rather then just jerk and go.

There was no chatter or other strange noises all in all it felt very solid and smooth, pedal effort is fine its something my wife could push in and drive i would say a tiny bit softer then the spec 3+ . I have to complete the break in before friday evening as i have a race to be at and i will report back after the break in and the race as to how it performed. using a 1-5 scale with 5 being perfect i give the following scores.

customer service 5
packaging 5
(fit and finish) disk 5, pressure plate 3, flywheel 5
ease of install and instructions 4 ( would be a 5 if dowels had been installed )
first drive impressions 5

I will update you all this weekend after break in and the first use at the track.

Originally Posted by rabiddog

That should make it a bit easier to read

Originally Posted by SNLPerformance

Not a problem, keep us posted on the next race. Make sure the fluid is clean and go from there.



If it was making the same noise as the video posted above that is material glaze. It has nothing to do with the quality of material, it's due to excessive slipping. This could be remedied by taking the car out to the track and dumping it a few times. After you "knock" the glaze off you need to adjust your driving habits so that it doesn't come back, easy stuff.

Originally Posted by SNLPerformance

If it was making the same noise as the video posted above that is material glaze. It has nothing to do with the quality of material, it's due to excessive slipping. This could be remedied by taking the car out to the track and dumping it a few times. After you "knock" the glaze off you need to adjust your driving habits so that it doesn't come back, easy stuff.

Originally Posted by Soul TKR

Good Info! Thanks for helping me figure it out! Even if it is in someone elses thread

Originally Posted by lavoy

it will take me years to get 12k miles on it , but i do race it every weekend often 2 or 3 events so it will get a work out for sure, i have it pretty well broken in and its a very easy clutch to drive, it can be slipped off the start with ease and so far hasnt shown any negative signs. i am going to the track in a few hours so i will post back later.

Originally Posted by lavoy

thanks for the reply, like i explained on the phone the car is my daily driver and i dont have the time to pull it apart, i basically had to call in favors and have the clutch over nighted and then pull a all nighter to get it done. every bolt was torqued to spec and loctite used, the sound is gone now and its shifting normal again, friday i have another race and we will see how it does, i wont have free time or a helping hand available for a few weeks at least.

Originally Posted by orangeapeel

Keep this thread on track. If I have to come in here again for damaging talk you will be playing the skin flute during your visit to banned camp. First, last and final warning. You already know who you are.

Originally Posted by Erik@Lashway

A properly installed Monster should be quiet. Aside from some normal "squeaking" you may hear from the clutch material, there should not be much more noise than that.

Anyone experiencing these noises need to have the units looked at by a professional installer (who knows what to look for).

Just my $0.02.

Erik@Lashway

Originally Posted by CBIII

Not trying to start drama, but do you work from home? is that how you can race your daily driver every weekend?