Best 5.3 6 speed option?
01-20-2015, 11:24 AM
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Best 5.3 6 speed option? Hi guys,
I'm doing a 5.3 truck motor swap out of an 02 Silverado into my 76 Camaro, I want a 6 speed and i was wondering if the T56 will mate up to that motor with which bellhousings and if I need to build the tranny or not. I'm planning on around 450-500 HP on the build. I'll be upgrading the rear end as well.
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Tyler
I'm doing a 5.3 truck motor swap out of an 02 Silverado into my 76 Camaro, I want a 6 speed and i was wondering if the T56 will mate up to that motor with which bellhousings and if I need to build the tranny or not. I'm planning on around 450-500 HP on the build. I'll be upgrading the rear end as well.
Thanks,
Tyler
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01-20-2015, 12:43 PM
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I would use the 98-02 F-body bellhousing and slave cylinder. That'll make getting a stage 1 or 2 clutch easy to shop for as well. Pretty sure a stock T56 will handle 450-500 horsepower. Main thing I would worry about is that 5/6 gear being loose on the countershaft if you buy the transmission used with high miles on it.
01-20-2015, 01:36 PM
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The T56 is not as cheap as it used to be. Typically I would say a used T56 is going for $1500+ at this moment. Typically the GTO T56 is considered to be a better version of the trans over the Fbody one.
As far as the price on the rebuild will depend on who is doing it and what parts they are using for the rebuild.
Bellhousing, I would go with an Fbody as noted above. I would contact some of the vendors for Monster and see what they recommend for the clutch.
For a 500rwhp build I would say that clutch choice, driving style, and whether or not the T56 has seen abuse will be the factors.
As far as the price on the rebuild will depend on who is doing it and what parts they are using for the rebuild.
Bellhousing, I would go with an Fbody as noted above. I would contact some of the vendors for Monster and see what they recommend for the clutch.
For a 500rwhp build I would say that clutch choice, driving style, and whether or not the T56 has seen abuse will be the factors.
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The T56 is not as cheap as it used to be. Typically I would say a used T56 is going for $1500+ at this moment. Typically the GTO T56 is considered to be a better version of the trans over the Fbody one.
As far as the price on the rebuild will depend on who is doing it and what parts they are using for the rebuild.
Bellhousing, I would go with an Fbody as noted above. I would contact some of the vendors for Monster and see what they recommend for the clutch.
For a 500rwhp build I would say that clutch choice, driving style, and whether or not the T56 has seen abuse will be the factors.
As far as the price on the rebuild will depend on who is doing it and what parts they are using for the rebuild.
Bellhousing, I would go with an Fbody as noted above. I would contact some of the vendors for Monster and see what they recommend for the clutch.
For a 500rwhp build I would say that clutch choice, driving style, and whether or not the T56 has seen abuse will be the factors.
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Another thing I was wondering about is if I can use any t56 or only specific applications, for example I found one out of an 04 cobra would that work? Or one from a 2000 corvette?
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01-21-2015, 01:13 AM
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If i can get away with it I'm going to buy the corvette transmission because its a decent enough price and has 56k on it, what all would I need to do to make it fit? In terms of shifter, crossmember, adapters and so forth
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as far as the case goes, a T56 is a T56, so the transmission will bolt up to the bellhousing straight up. Crossmembers - If a company like advance adapters or texas speed doesn't make one, then just do it the old fashioned way - mock install everything, support the trans with a jack, make measurements, and fab one up.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the F-body T56 shifter is farther back on the trans than the corvette T56. So, like jmd said, if you don't mind cutting a new hole in your floor, etc, get the trans you want and go at it. You can get adjustable motor mounts to allow about 1-2 inches of travel for the powertrain, so if you get pretty close to the right position, you can make it fit.
I'll give you an example that might help. Typically, if you put a LS motor (or any V8) into a S10 (like I did), the F-body stuff fits rather well overall. The shifter ended up coming through the cupholder in the console instead of where the shifter used to be. Since you're putting yours in an F-body, the shifter is likely toward the rear on the current transmission.
I live in Mesa, so if you want, I can come take a look with you and help with some measurements.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the F-body T56 shifter is farther back on the trans than the corvette T56. So, like jmd said, if you don't mind cutting a new hole in your floor, etc, get the trans you want and go at it. You can get adjustable motor mounts to allow about 1-2 inches of travel for the powertrain, so if you get pretty close to the right position, you can make it fit.
I'll give you an example that might help. Typically, if you put a LS motor (or any V8) into a S10 (like I did), the F-body stuff fits rather well overall. The shifter ended up coming through the cupholder in the console instead of where the shifter used to be. Since you're putting yours in an F-body, the shifter is likely toward the rear on the current transmission.
I live in Mesa, so if you want, I can come take a look with you and help with some measurements.
01-21-2015, 08:54 AM
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A vette trans requires over $800 in new parts to convert to GTO clone and that's not rebuilt. So the one you're seeing with 56k isn't a deal.
The thread on her you need to read is the SSR Fbody T56 Hybrid project *if you are deadset on converting.
And if you want to talk hybrids in detail locally, I am not far.
The thread on her you need to read is the SSR Fbody T56 Hybrid project *if you are deadset on converting.
And if you want to talk hybrids in detail locally, I am not far.
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as far as the case goes, a T56 is a T56, so the transmission will bolt up to the bellhousing straight up. Crossmembers - If a company like advance adapters or texas speed doesn't make one, then just do it the old fashioned way - mock install everything, support the trans with a jack, make measurements, and fab one up.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the F-body T56 shifter is farther back on the trans than the corvette T56. So, like jmd said, if you don't mind cutting a new hole in your floor, etc, get the trans you want and go at it. You can get adjustable motor mounts to allow about 1-2 inches of travel for the powertrain, so if you get pretty close to the right position, you can make it fit.
I'll give you an example that might help. Typically, if you put a LS motor (or any V8) into a S10 (like I did), the F-body stuff fits rather well overall. The shifter ended up coming through the cupholder in the console instead of where the shifter used to be. Since you're putting yours in an F-body, the shifter is likely toward the rear on the current transmission.
I live in Mesa, so if you want, I can come take a look with you and help with some measurements.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the F-body T56 shifter is farther back on the trans than the corvette T56. So, like jmd said, if you don't mind cutting a new hole in your floor, etc, get the trans you want and go at it. You can get adjustable motor mounts to allow about 1-2 inches of travel for the powertrain, so if you get pretty close to the right position, you can make it fit.
I'll give you an example that might help. Typically, if you put a LS motor (or any V8) into a S10 (like I did), the F-body stuff fits rather well overall. The shifter ended up coming through the cupholder in the console instead of where the shifter used to be. Since you're putting yours in an F-body, the shifter is likely toward the rear on the current transmission.
I live in Mesa, so if you want, I can come take a look with you and help with some measurements.
01-22-2015, 01:30 AM
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A vette trans requires over $800 in new parts to convert to GTO clone and that's not rebuilt. So the one you're seeing with 56k isn't a deal.
The thread on her you need to read is the SSR Fbody T56 Hybrid project *if you are deadset on converting.
And if you want to talk hybrids in detail locally, I am not far.
The thread on her you need to read is the SSR Fbody T56 Hybrid project *if you are deadset on converting.
And if you want to talk hybrids in detail locally, I am not far.
01-22-2015, 09:10 PM
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The shifter position on that Cobra box would have been decent but you're still changing the input and front case plate. Probably yoke change too. Worth it for the right ratios though.
The F-body and GTO are ergonomically great but not ideal for the 2nd gen console.
The F-body and GTO are ergonomically great but not ideal for the 2nd gen console.
01-22-2015, 09:31 PM
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Thinking about it I don't mind modding the console, will the shifter position need to be moved back for the f body and gto trannies? I wouldn't mind that because I could mold a cup holder in where the old one was
02-01-2015, 04:20 AM
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Imo, get a 04-06 gto tranny, they're better than the fbody ones and dont need any modifications to work with your setup (besides shifter cup needing to be replaced). And on the clutch, get a monster stage 3 instead, its cheaper than the stage 2 on ws6store.com