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LT1 T56 on LS1 Just posting this up so that people know there is another option. Front plate is not modified, input shaft has not been touched. Modern Driveline adapter bracket with a jack screw to set height and a Tilton bearing. McLeod pilot bushing to make up for the difference in input shaft length. My specific clutch splines do line up with the M29 input shaft splines so there should be no issue there. https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...20&oe=5D4E31B9 |
Are you going to use an LS bell housing? What do you do about the input shaft being to short/ pilot bearing? |
I have an opportunity to buy an LT1 T56 for 150.00 but by the time I buy all the swap parts I could buy an LS version. I have done the LS swap on a nv3500 but seems like the LT T56 is different from what I have read. |
Originally Posted by red95T/A
(Post 20068328)
I have an opportunity to buy an LT1 T56 for 150.00 but by the time I buy all the swap parts I could buy an LS version. I have done the LS swap on a nv3500 but seems like the LT T56 is different from what I have read. |
Originally Posted by red95T/A
(Post 20068326)
Are you going to use an LS bell housing? What do you do about the input shaft being to short/ pilot bearing? |
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So with the throw out bearing you are using and the pilot bearing the only thing I would have to change would be the bell housing right?! |
Do you have part numbers for the pilot, throw out bearing and slave you are using? |
I am using all LS1 clutch hydraulics. The throwout bearing is something I worked on with Modern Driveline and has some of their own specific parts that you can only order through them. I would advise contacting Paul Coffey at extension 4000 or Paul@theiremail as he is who I dealt with on this and was very familiar with what I was doing. Tick master setup with a 3/4" Tilton master instead of the normal 7/8" (this would depend on what clutch you use) Tilton 6000 series throwout bearing, 44mm piston, with a threaded collar and the McLeod adapter plate (I believe it's the Tilton 60-6231 but not 100% sure, MD took care of it) McLeod 8617 pilot bearing Quartermaster Optimum RR 7.25" twin disk clutch LS1 bellhousing LT1 M29 T56 That's the entire setup that is on the car. You will need to measure the clutch stack height in order to determine what height the release bearing needs to be. I had to use the small diameter 44mm piston instead of their normal setup because of the small diameter clutch. The complete throwout bearing assembly complete with lines and remote bleeder came to $420. It may not be the cheapest way to go but it was my only rules-compliant option to get shorter gearing in the car. A lot of these parts that are on that list were already in the car with the LS1 T56. The only changes are the pilot, throwout bearing assembly, and the LT1 T56. |
97 t56
Originally Posted by landstuhltaylor
(Post 20068698)
I am using all LS1 clutch hydraulics. The throwout bearing is something I worked on with Modern Driveline and has some of their own specific parts that you can only order through them. I would advise contacting Paul Coffey at extension 4000 or Paul@theiremail as he is who I dealt with on this and was very familiar with what I was doing. Tick master setup with a 3/4" Tilton master instead of the normal 7/8" (this would depend on what clutch you use) Tilton 6000 series throwout bearing, 44mm piston, with a threaded collar and the McLeod adapter plate (I believe it's the Tilton 60-6231 but not 100% sure, MD took care of it) McLeod 8617 pilot bearing Quartermaster Optimum RR 7.25" twin disk clutch LS1 bellhousing LT1 M29 T56 That's the entire setup that is on the car. You will need to measure the clutch stack height in order to determine what height the release bearing needs to be. I had to use the small diameter 44mm piston instead of their normal setup because of the small diameter clutch. The complete throwout bearing assembly complete with lines and remote bleeder came to $420. It may not be the cheapest way to go but it was my only rules-compliant option to get shorter gearing in the car. A lot of these parts that are on that list were already in the car with the LS1 T56. The only changes are the pilot, throwout bearing assembly, and the LT1 T56. wondering what flywheel you used on this set up, got a 97 camaro t56 and also could i use just a plain regular clutch instead of a fancy twin or other triple stacks clutches that cost thousands of dollars, just want to drive n not be racing |
Have you got a chance to run this LTx box behind and LSx yet? Very interesting. |
Originally Posted by louieace1
(Post 20080594)
wondering what flywheel you used on this set up, got a 97 camaro t56 and also could i use just a plain regular clutch instead of a fancy twin or other triple stacks clutches that cost thousands of dollars, just want to drive n not be racing
Originally Posted by ElQueFør
(Post 20081169)
Have you got a chance to run this LTx box behind and LSx yet? Very interesting. |
Jason at TDP has designed an adapter to mount the LS factory slave to an LT mid plate which should save a couple hundred bucks on a conversion over the convention methods of mid plate, input shaft and bell housing. |
I'm glad to see that the options for sticking a manual behind an LS have grown to what they are.... Wasn't that long ago that a guy didn't really have the options that we have now. |
Just an update to this. It is running now although it only has street miles on it so far for tuning. First time driving it in anger will be next weekend but so far it has been flawless. |
It's run on course now, night and day difference. Not worth it for most people I imagine but it's a solid 1 second faster on an autocross course within the ESP ruleset. Aside from the Hoosiers I don't think I've done anything that has made this big of a difference. |
What do you mean when you say night and day difference? |
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