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Gary Z 08-23-2005 01:40 PM

Why "daisy wheel" clutch disks?
 
I have searched but can find no explanation of why many high-performance clutches, such as the Spec III, have four or six wing disks. My intuition tells me that a solid disk would always be superior because of greater contact area. What are the advantages of "daisy wheel" clutch disks?

DONAIMIAN 08-23-2005 02:02 PM

You know thats never crossed my mind untill now.

GuitsBoy 08-23-2005 04:45 PM

Maybe less surface area allows it to bite harder due to higher clamping force per sq. inch.??

SPEEDYws6 08-23-2005 05:50 PM

I've always been under the impression that with so much better friction materials the greater surface area is not required and thus making things so much easier to disapate heat.

Grimes 08-24-2005 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Maybe less surface area allows it to bite harder due to higher clamping force per sq. inch.??


I think that this is the reason as well!

STRIPSTAR 08-24-2005 10:26 AM

I think its better friction materials and the need to keep the weight down.

DONAIMIAN 08-24-2005 02:31 PM

It seems like they would be able to use a less aggressive friction material if they increased the surface area of it.

P Mack 08-24-2005 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Maybe less surface area allows it to bite harder due to higher clamping force per sq. inch.??

It would have more force/area, but that wouldn't help it hold more torque. How much torque it can handle has to do with friction material, radius, and total clamping force. I bet the reason is just because it's easier/cheaper to manufacture small pads of friction material than a big grooved ring. It sure as hell isn't for longer clutch life.

Grimes 08-24-2005 06:52 PM

Haha, can't we get some clutch engineers in here? I understand a larger surface area would be better for clutch life, but mabye the aftermarket material needs more force/less area to work properly? beuller, beuller? anyone?

Gary Z 08-25-2005 12:57 PM

I had assumed that there was some simple rationale behind the design of daisy wheel clutch discs. If the design depends on unusual properties of special friction materials then we might not get a clear explanation for the simple reason that very few have the knowledge.


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