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Old 09-21-2005, 12:23 AM
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So, I finally upgraded from my stock clutch to a SPEC 3 with billet Flywheel.

I was told by a buddy, and also from reading around that the normal clutch chatter would go away after about 500 miles.

I've got currently 330 miles on the car, the chatter hasn't shown much improvement other than when I first got the car back. After the first 50 miles it improved a tad. But I still have massive amounts of chatter, the kind that rattle your fillings out of your teeth.

I'm not a newby to driving manual either, I'm pretty smooth on take offs. Now, the car has become by far the most frustrating car i've ever driven. Even beyond that of a 1st gen Toyota MR2 that felt like driving one of those flying cars from the Jettsons.

Only time it doesn't chatter is if I take off in a slightly brisk manner, which as my friend said to me just to keep doing that. But, daily driving doesn't always allow you premier lane choice at a stop light... so taking off briskly behind a large truck isn't an option. Unless I've got stock in my local Autobody shop.

So, I'm asking... is 500 miles the magic number? Like I've stated... it hasn't really improved other than the initial few miles from the install. Which was done by a local shop that's been around since dirt was invented, with a guy who owns it since before then. So I don't think it's a install problem...

Any ideas? I'd like to keep my fillings in my teeth if I could, I hate going to the dentist.
Old 09-21-2005, 03:38 AM
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i have this clutch, it does not chatter at all. in fact it drives great.
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Sometimes it takes a while to break those in. It could also be air in the hydrolics. An air buble in the system can cause chatter by acting like a spring that the pressure plate bounces against
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Yeah...check out the Buschman clutch bleeding method...particularly part 3 of it. I just started messing with it last night with my Mityvac, and I was pulling out air bubbles left and right (and I thought mine was bled pretty well). This morning, my chatter that I normally have was greatly reduced (this is on a RAM Powergrip HD).
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i have about 2k on it and still get a bit of chatter once in awhile
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Spec 3I here, still get some chatter from time to time!!!
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Get some more miles on it, then do a couple high rpm clutch dumps. Believe it or not is usually helps cure the chatter. Bob
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Spec 3 here. Never chatters unless starting out REAL slow from a stop. Other then that drives great. I would bleed system, and then launch it some and see if it helps.
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Originally Posted by SSblack98
Spec 3 here. Never chatters unless starting out REAL slow from a stop. Other then that drives great. I would bleed system, and then launch it some and see if it helps.
Besides bleeding the system, installation procedure is key. I had a local shop put is a stage 3 and unforunatly it was installed incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by NLinnear
Besides bleeding the system, installation procedure is key. I had a local shop put is a stage 3 and unforunatly it was installed incorrectly.
Do you know the mistake they did?
I'm planning an A4 to M6 swap using a stage 3 and I'd like to install the clutch right.
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after the normal break in miles, then go out and beat on it for a bit... the chatter should be gone after that.
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Hmm, Ok... I'll do some burn outs and practice my 60' times. I have the hardest time launching this damn car. My old 240z was way easier to launch in comparison. And It'd run in the low 13s all day on max boost.

Just need more time behind the wheel.
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Bleeding the system will not solve your problem....

The Stage 3 Kevlar chatters.... I have installed Spec Stage 2 through stage 5 and always the Kevlar chatters..

500 miles is not the magic number..

Here's what I would do..

At 500 miles I would start getting on the clutch.. Do some hard launches..

After 1200 miles and no results.. If you can;t live with it.. Trade it in for a stage 4 Carbon.. Much better clutch... SPEC has given us credits in the past for problems with the clutch...

I would contact Spec now, tell them your problem and have them doc the problem. So that if you send it back in another 1000 miles they won't fight you as much...

Stage 5 squeeks... Stage 4 will be good for your setup, and the streetability is very good

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chatter in my spec3 never went away..still had it after 10k miles. finally welded it to the flywheel doin a burnout. 11k miles on it..less than 10 months in. goodluck with yours.
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Originally Posted by HUGGER ORANGE SS
Stage 5 squeeks... Stage 4 will be good for your setup, and the streetability is very good
I have a stage 5 on the way. The material and design has changed recently. It's not supposed to sqeek any more and it's also a little more forgiving.

I'll find out next week.
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Peel out with it Matty. Do some weed stompers smokey donuts. In short, beat the hell out of it. Let me know how you do after a couple 4-5K rpms clutch slips.
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I have read the 3+ is much more streetable.



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