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Sprayed1998 07-08-2007 03:01 PM

***ATTN: SPEC*** Pics of my Stage 3
 
Here are the pics you wanted of the clutch assembly. I think they forgot to throw the flywheel in the box when they put the old clutch in but I will try and get pics of that later this week. Basically this is what my clutch looked like after 8-9 months/8,000 miles of easy street use. One trip the the track with a total of 3 passes. Basically it's the same story as everybody else thats having problems with the Stage 3. Pedal slowly gets higher and higher untill it begins to slip, slippage gets worse and worse untill it fails or has to be replaced.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9738/1000961iz8.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1804/1000963aa9.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2330/1000962xg8.jpg


http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7628/1000965nn3.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4404/1000966pp2.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/696/1000967tg5.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5698/1000968ru7.jpg

Let me know how you want me to get this back to you. Do you guys usually issue UPS/Fed Ex return labels or is the customer responsible for shipping on warranty claims.

QuickdomesticRacer 07-08-2007 03:21 PM

Exactly what mine looked like. Goodluck.

BLK02TA 07-08-2007 11:51 PM

Thats sad.

Tdawg 07-09-2007 02:58 AM

i'm actually in the same boat, i'm right in the middle of switching out my 7 month old spec 3 clutch to a LS7 kit. i'll be taking pics of everything tomorrow

98SS2836 07-09-2007 05:17 AM

I've Had my spec 3 in for three years now and 80 passes no problems at all. If you break them in properly you'll have no problems.

Sprayed1998 07-09-2007 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by 98SS2836
I've Had my spec 3 in for three years now and 80 passes no problems at all. If you break them in properly you'll have no problems.

Broke it in for over 1,000 miles, took it to the track one time and made 3 passes. All the car really saw was easy back and forth to work driving. The guy who installed my LS7 (Site Sponser/SPEC Dealer) said he has about 3/10 that have the same issue as me and the 10's of others who keep poping up with the same exact issue. But I can assure you break in had less than nothing to do with this clutch failing.

1BADAIR 07-10-2007 09:25 PM

was it shimmed?

LrngCrv 07-10-2007 11:08 PM

That clutch doesn't have the grip area for a daily driver, if you wore it out that fast then you need to get a smaller cam and stop driving it to work everyday. It isn't a bad clutch for the cost if you are using it on a lightly modded weekend car but don't expect it to last 50,000 miles on a car that you have to slip a lot.

It is a decent priced choice to put a lot of weight on the flywheel from time to time. I wouldn't knock it that bad. It isn't horrible and you get what you pay for which in the right situations...

I'd recommend something with a bit more grip area for a regular street car.

Sprayed1998 07-11-2007 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by LrngCrv
That clutch doesn't have the grip area for a daily driver, if you wore it out that fast then you need to get a smaller cam and stop driving it to work everyday. It isn't a bad clutch for the cost if you are using it on a lightly modded weekend car but don't expect it to last 50,000 miles on a car that you have to slip a lot.

It is a decent priced choice to put a lot of weight on the flywheel from time to time. I wouldn't knock it that bad. It isn't horrible and you get what you pay for which in the right situations...

I'd recommend something with a bit more grip area for a regular street car.

Well considering the Spec stage 3 is without a doubt Specs most popular clutch you would think they would mention some of this stuff you bring up. And what about all the people who have had older Spec Stage 3's last 30, 40, even 50k miles. That alone pretty much ends your argument. I am telling you there is a bad batch of these spec stage 3's. Just look at all the people poping up with issues around the same time.

Sprayed1998 07-11-2007 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
was it shimmed?

It was installed the way Spec wanted it to be.

SPEC-01 07-11-2007 10:34 AM

What is the disc thickness? Let me know so I can have an idea of what we are looking at in terms of wear! Thanks!

Ima get mines 07-11-2007 10:49 AM

Yep you have the same problem as me except mine is still in the car and I still drive it... I cant wait to see what mine looks like when I take it out. Its not the break in that screws up your clutch, these things are a hit or a miss. I definately wont be buying one of these again, wouldnt even consider it for street use.

SPEC-01 07-11-2007 10:51 AM

Ima, I just posted to your thread? Lets make sure we have all the info needed before making sweeping assumptions. Again, until the unit is out of the car there is no way to know exactly what the cause/solution will be. Keep me posted. Thanks!!

Edited for spelling!

Drewstein 07-11-2007 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
It was installed the way Spec wanted it to be.

Says who?

STRIPSTAR 07-11-2007 12:05 PM

Mine looked worse than that. Spec didnt give a shit and they dont really warranty anything.

sidewayz28 07-11-2007 03:14 PM

shoulda got a RAM :jest:

gun5l1ng3r 07-11-2007 03:46 PM

I don't think that there is one SUPER reliable clutch. It seems all the companys have had problems...

I don't even think that money can solve this problem of RELIABLE high HP clutches for the LSx motors...

koji777 07-11-2007 03:50 PM

I smoked checked both a Spec 3 (12000 miles) and Spec 5 (1500 miles). My car is a DD. I took it to the track twice with the Spec 5, did about 10 2500 rpm launches... she slipped all the way home. Once I got her apart I found her to be glazed and there were spider cracks all over the puck(overheated/slipping). When all was said and done I was told that I should not have run the spacer. I've since gone to the Tex Twin..... 2500 miles, 30+ 25-4500 RPM launches..... drives like a dream, no slip.

Ima get mines 07-11-2007 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by koji777
I smoked checked both a Spec 3 (12000 miles) and Spec 5 (1500 miles). My car is a DD. I took it to the track twice with the Spec 5, did about 10 2500 rpm launches... she slipped all the way home. Once I got her apart I found her to be glazed and there were spider cracks all over the puck(overheated/slipping). When all was said and done I was told that I should not have run the spacer. I've since gone to the Tex Twin..... 2500 miles, 30+ 25-4500 RPM launches..... drives like a dream, no slip.

Good to know, thats crazy.

LPE Z Convt 07-11-2007 04:45 PM

SPEC CLUTCHES SUCK. I broke my SPEC 3 in for almost 1,000 miles never got on the car once . I did a few street launches and the clutch did good but on like the 4th street launch it slipped bad.. I thought is was just me but i have slipped it every time since.. Spec claimed 800rwtq is what the clutch could handle my car makes N/A 398rwtq.. NICE CLUTCH.. My question is what is everybody replacing their SHITTY spec clutches with? BTW the clutch only has about 3,000 miles on it at the most.. Best damn $700 i have ever spent..



PISSED CUSTOMER,

Chris


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