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Old 08-29-2008, 12:22 AM
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Well, I am having Tim at Redline tune my car, and my buddy was supposed to go and get a tune from Tim as well. Now he is kinda backing out because somebody close to where we live has offered to tune it for $100. Catch is he doesn't have that much experience tuning cars, I mean he has done a few but Tim has done a lot and I believe a lot of the time you get what you pay for. I am trying to convince him its worth the extra money because of the experience Tim has and the depth he will go in to get our cars tuned right. Help me convince him and let me know what you guys think. I mean a tune can make or break the performance of your car.
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If he wont listen let him learn the hard way. Waste $100 and then go up to see Tim when the tune is focked
Old 08-29-2008, 12:36 AM
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He'll only be hurting himself in the end. Your absolutely right, owell some will never learn that trying to cut corners is never worth it.
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thats what I told him, your paying for the depth and attention to detail Tim will go into making our cars run the best they can, and of course the experience he has.
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And he doesn't think it will make that big of a difference between two different tuners, and that is definetly not true. Seen too many times cars run far worse than they could because they got tuned by someone who was far from knowing what they were doing. I mean there is a difference from just taking a ses light off for egr and tuning a car for the mods that have been added.
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What else do you have on the car besides spray? If your basically stock with bolt ons and spray i'm sure if the other tuner has any experience he would probably do a fine job.
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yea we both just have bolt on, and I have spray also. I just think a tune is a very important aspect of performance. You don't just want anyone messing with stuff.
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True but there really isn't much that can be done anyway to really boost that noticably. Just shift firmness, if they have a wideband they can mess with a little fuel, and some spark advance. Other then that its pretty straight forward. I'm still learning on how to tune my car but I'm starting from scratch with a heads, cam, nitrous motor.
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yes Tim is going to be doing a wideband tune, and the other guy isn't as far as I know.
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you said your peace now let the boy break his.
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Let the boy break his? That is kind of an igornant statement. I'm sure the other guy will do just fine for a $100 tune. Its not rocket science with a bolt on car. I'm a beginner and I probably wouldn't have any problem.
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yea, i guess will just have to wait and see how it goes.
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I just spent 30 min in the PCM tuning section. Tell him I will do it for $50
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tune is EVERYTHING. car will run like trash.

i wouldnt let anyone tune my car that hasnt done 100+ cars. look at the cars they have tuned and see what they run.
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yea, I think he has decided to let Tim tune his car as well.
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Originally Posted by pddye
True but there really isn't much that can be done anyway to really boost that noticably. Just shift firmness, if they have a wideband they can mess with a little fuel, and some spark advance. Other then that its pretty straight forward. I'm still learning on how to tune my car but I'm starting from scratch with a heads, cam, nitrous motor.
i have to disagree, a good tuner can take a stock c6 z06 thats pushing 430 rwhp to over 500 rwhp
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What all was done in the tune to gain the 70rwhp? I'm just pointing out that on a bolt on car a tuner with knowledge can get the car where it needs to be. Now when cams are swapped and forced induction is put on I would really urge the owner to go to a pro if you don't feel comfortable in tackling it yourself.
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how big a difference would it make between tuning it narrowband or wideband?
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Originally Posted by NeedaV8foundation
i have to disagree, a good tuner can take a stock c6 z06 thats pushing 430 rwhp to over 500 rwhp
With what sort of magic? GM didn't leave 100 crank horsepower just sitting around inside the tune.

You cant really tune accurately with narrow band you need the wideband to get the air/fuel right.

One thing I've learned in modding my car is never skimp, always buy the best because then you wont have to do it twice.
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yea pretty sure I'll just stick to having Tim tune my car.


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