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Old 06-11-2012, 12:58 PM
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An MN12 is a T56. So is the MN6 that the Camaros come with No two ways about it.
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Originally Posted by LS1again
So when is someone going to make a thread showing me why I should build a ManualLS car??
There are already here, just titled differently. Search for titles like: broken 10 bolt, missed a shift and got beat by a minivan, why am I stuck in the 14s, and 450rwhp and 115mph traps.
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Originally Posted by LS1again
So when is someone going to make a thread showing me why I should build a ManualLS car??
Here we go. Apparently this is a snore fest. lol








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Old 06-11-2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
There are already here, just titled differently. Search for titles like: broken 10 bolt, missed a shift and got beat by a minivan, why am I stuck in the 14s, and 450rwhp and 115mph traps.
I giggled
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Would you correct someone if you heard someone say their Zo6 had a t56? I would...

An SS is a Camaro... But if someone asks what you have you would say an SS.

They have several differences between them, not just gear ratios.
When people ask me what tranny I have. I tell them it's a T56 with close ratio gears. Exactly what it is. I was just curious if you knew that MN-12 was just a T56 version like the MM-6 out of the Camaro, MN-6 in the non Z06 Vette.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
There are already here, just titled differently. Search for titles like: broken 10 bolt, missed a shift and got beat by a minivan, why am I stuck in the 14s, and 450rwhp and 115mph traps.
lolwut 450whp for 115 mph traps? Sounds like an auto.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
lolwut 450whp for 115 mph traps? Sounds like an auto.
No, that's definitely a manual trans trait - big dynos and poor track numbers.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
No, that's definitely a manual trans trait - big dynos and poor track numbers.
My manual was the oposite. only 423/382, but trapped 118.54 in like 1600 DA. All the autos I have raced with similar or slightly less power (Gaunt's old Z for example, 400/400), were trapping a lot less. I think his trapped 113, we just ran the same ET. Or some other guys I know in the 114-117 range with more power then I was making.
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Originally Posted by ws6driv3r
you guys sound like bunch of ******* in the video. No one in the history of building cars unless its a serious drag or street car has ever taken the t-56 out of their vette and swapped with an a4..... and if you did swap it it would have been a th400 or something along those lines. no one is impressed.
Stop..do some looking around before you post....before you sound even more like a idiot.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
An MN12 is a T56. So is the MN6 that the Camaros come with No two ways about it.
True.. I guess I make sure to call the Z trans an MN12 because it is "upgraded", a better trans.
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There are already here, just titled differently. Search for titles like: broken 10 bolt, missed a shift and got beat by a minivan, why am I stuck in the 14s, and 450rwhp and 115mph traps.
I LOL'd
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Here we go. Apparently this is a snore fest. lol
No you moron... Apparently the auto was a snooze fest, the manual was a pain in the ***. Keep up with the slander comments if you are going to compete in the games.
Those are fine and dandy but how about these?
Stock bottom end car there on motor


I can show you track videos of autos absolutely shitting on manuals all day, but do I really need to?
And yes, that black car is easy to control I'm sure.
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When people ask me what tranny I have. I tell them it's a T56 with close ratio gears. Exactly what it is. I was just curious if you knew that MN-12 was just a T56 version like the MM-6 out of the Camaro, MN-6 in the non Z06 Vette.
I did know that, see above for my reason why I said it. It was wrong for me to do it, just how I view it is different I suppose.
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My manual was the oposite. only 423/382, but trapped 118.54 in like 1600 DA. All the autos I have raced with similar or slightly less power (Gaunt's old Z for example, 400/400), were trapping a lot less. I think his trapped 113, we just ran the same ET. Or some other guys I know in the 114-117 range with more power then I was making.
My 3500+# car with 37XRwhp was running 117mph hitting the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift FWIW.
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Please Lemons I could drive those auto POS's to 8 second traps while eatting a cheeseburger
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Originally Posted by My6speedZ
Please Lemons I could drive those auto POS's to 8 second traps while eatting a cheeseburger
so your saying eating a cheeseburger in 8sec isnt fun? lol
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Hell no, thats one thing NO M6 guy can say
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
My manual was the oposite. only 423/382, but trapped 118.54 in like 1600 DA. All the autos I have raced with similar or slightly less power (Gaunt's old Z for example, 400/400), were trapping a lot less. I think his trapped 113, we just ran the same ET. Or some other guys I know in the 114-117 range with more power then I was making.
Really?

I make 420rwhp and trap 124mph at 3700lbs... through an auto.

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My 3500+# car with 37XRwhp was running 117mph hitting the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift FWIW.
Yep. I did 118mph at 380rwhp and 3700lbs.
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
i could do this all day bud. just quit complaining
Really? We can't have a normal discussion without you resorting to changing quotes around like a child?
That strait line stuff looks pretty hard, Ill just leave theses here for you guys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vIlk...ayer_embedded#!
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
No, that's definitely a manual trans trait - big dynos and poor track numbers.
Nope. For an 05 member you are very lost. How is it that bolt on m6 cars are have trapped 112+ then? Just because some **** setup made 450 and trapped 115 at some **** track with **** DA doesn't mean every car does this? Your logic is flawed. Everyone knows a manual will always trap higher than an auto, its common sense... Also that camaro i shared made a tad over 500whp and traped 131 with slicks... Just to add to your retarded claims


Originally Posted by lemons12
No you moron... Apparently the auto was a snooze fest, the manual was a pain in the ***. Keep up with the slander comments if you are going to compete in the games.
Those are fine and dandy but how about these?
Stock bottom end car there on motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bFWPrSEJnI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L29i9PC4eM

I can show you track videos of autos absolutely shitting on manuals all day, but do I really need to?
And yes, that black car is easy to control I'm sure.

I did know that, see above for my reason why I said it. It was wrong for me to do it, just how I view it is different I suppose.

My 3500+# car with 37XRwhp was running 117mph hitting the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift FWIW.
"Never argue with an idiot- they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

My comments weren't even toward you, it was meant for the guy who did that cheeky edit on someone else's quote. Please go.

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I never talked autox down, I LOVE it. I got to ride in several cars several time at last years Ls1Fest and had an absolute BLAST!! It got me hooked and I will have a car I autox one day. Not as serious as my straight line drag racing just a stock C5Z to get out and have some fun in at stuff like LsFest and what not.


adamidiot- Can I not respond to your posts? We're all shooting the ****.
Yes, I'm the idiot.. Come outside of this world and come hang out in the internal engine/trans/rear end/etc.... Yep, I'm an idiot.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
I never talked autox down, I LOVE it. I got to ride in several cars several time at last years Ls1Fest and had an absolute BLAST!! It got me hooked and I will have a car I autox one day. Not as serious as my straight line drag racing just a stock C5Z to get out and have some fun in at stuff like LsFest and what not.


adamidiot- Can I not respond to your posts? We're all shooting the ****.
Yes, I'm the idiot.. Come outside of this world and come hang out in the internal engine/trans/rear end/etc.... Yep, I'm an idiot.
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You nailed it.

Time to back off now.
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I still think its hilarious how M6 guys get so defensive. The only race I had in my old LT1 (228/236, slightly worked heads, bolt ons, TDs, 3600 stall, 2.73s) I raced my friends 230/236 cam only LS1 M6. When I finally let him pull around me after I let off at 120 I got the "oh i spun and then missed 3rd" excuse.
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