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I see this EXACT same thread on every f-body board I go to. <img border="0" alt="[boring]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" />

"blah blah import blah blah domestic blah blah"

<small>[ February 23, 2003, 12:12 AM: Message edited by: 0rion ]</small>

 

Getting errors downloading it...

but.. from what I've read (seems to be at least 2 deleted messages.... ) this apparently is a fast import (not possible (sarcarsm)... *cough* *skyline* *cough*)

but it probably has 500-600K invested in it! (sarcasm)

I respect all fast cars the same.... I just will never own a japcrap...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Rpm2800:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Venkman:
<strong> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fast is fast. What does how much it cost matter if that's what somebody wants. If somebody puts a lot of money in their small 4 cylinder, thats them. Alot of them could have bought an fbody, but that may not be what they want. (Some of them probably have fbodies also.)

When you line up , it's speed that counts regardless how much it cost to get the car to go that fast. I have a TRANS AM, but If an fbody gets beat by a civic, the first thing out of alot a guys mouths is , "well it cost 20,000 to make it that fast" So what. You still got cracked.
Many were not complaining about how much i cost before they got beat. And even if they were, again who cares . I don't prefer 4cylinders, but.. Fast is fast. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that is not the issue, i agree fast is fast no matter how you get there. However, The issue is money and quickness

A civic si with $500 in mods will not run with a mustang gt, camaro, or transam with $500 in mods, sorry.

 

Why do people insists on saying it takes more money to make an import fast. There are dozens of stock imports that can spank a domestic ***. Case in point: Subaru Sti, EvoVIII, Mr2 Turbo, Rx-7 1.3liters. All of these cars run mid to low 13's stock. Aren't these cars faster than a camaro ls1 stock or mustang. It takes less money to make a turbo car faster than an n/a. There is only so much you can do with an n/a to make it faster besides spraying, turbo is endless.

For one, the blocks are usually stronger than any domestic. Can you run 15 psi or more on stock blocks. Nope. How about 20. Hell naw. Your piston and rods wouldn't stand a chance.

Second, when going for moderate hp levels, displacement and amount of cylinders do not play a roll. Lets say under 800 hp, there are plenty of imports making this amount with little or no trouble. Now when your talking about 1500-2000 hp, then yea liters matter but not number of cylinders.

Yea I admitt it does take more money to make an n/a import faster with all the motor swaps and block peperation that needs to be done and not including the turbo kit itself. Yea that takes alot of money but who cares thats on them. If you want to look at it a different way, then takes the price of your car into consideration then you probably come out even.

Now with the cars that were mentioned above, they come with bullet proof blocks capable of 500 on there stock pistons and rods. And with minor bolt on's they can easily obtain low 12's high 11's.

Do you think a dodge viper enthusiast looks down on you becuase you only have 8 cykinders. Or how about a v12 mercedes. They probably say the same thing about you guys. Oh he has a piece of **** car that only has 8 cyl. What kind of since does that make. Does a v12 mercedes push out more power than yours. NO, it doesn't. Is it faster? NO it isn't.

So I do not see your points in comparing imports vs domestics, Maybe it's the satisfacton of being able to spank a car that has twice the motor and and three times the displacement for a fraction of the cost. Or maybe they just want to be different.

If you do not see more and more car manufactors or building lower displacement motors and turbo cars that are replacing big v8 cars.

 

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 25psi:
<strong> Why do people insists on saying it takes more money to make an import fast. There are dozens of stock imports that can spank a domestic ***. Case in point: Subaru Sti, EvoVIII, Mr2 Turbo, Rx-7 1.3liters. All of these cars run mid to low 13's stock. Aren't these cars faster than a camaro ls1 stock or mustang. It takes less money to make a turbo car faster than an n/a. There is only so much you can do with an n/a to make it faster besides spraying, turbo is endless.

For one, the blocks are usually stronger than any domestic. Can you run 15 psi or more on stock blocks. Nope. How about 20. Hell naw. Your piston and rods wouldn't stand a chance.

Second, when going for moderate hp levels, displacement and amount of cylinders do not play a roll. Lets say under 800 hp, there are plenty of imports making this amount with little or no trouble. Now when your talking about 1500-2000 hp, then yea liters matter but not number of cylinders.

Yea I admitt it does take more money to make an n/a import faster with all the motor swaps and block peperation that needs to be done and not including the turbo kit itself. Yea that takes alot of money but who cares thats on them. If you want to look at it a different way, then takes the price of your car into consideration then you probably come out even.

Now with the cars that were mentioned above, they come with bullet proof blocks capable of 500 on there stock pistons and rods. And with minor bolt on's they can easily obtain low 12's high 11's.

Do you think a dodge viper enthusiast looks down on you becuase you only have 8 cykinders. Or how about a v12 mercedes. They probably say the same thing about you guys. Oh he has a piece of **** car that only has 8 cyl. What kind of since does that make. Does a v12 mercedes push out more power than yours. NO, it doesn't. Is it faster? NO it isn't.

So I do not see your points in comparing imports vs domestics, Maybe it's the satisfacton of being able to spank a car that has twice the motor and and three times the displacement for a fraction of the cost. Or maybe they just want to be different.

If you do not see more and more car manufactors or building lower displacement motors and turbo cars that are replacing big v8 cars. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that was <img border="0" alt="[rainbow]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_rainbow.gif" />

 

Yeah the 5-10 min it took you to write that are 5-10 min. of your life that you are never going to get back. Hope it was worth it. Now that I think about it the 2 min it took me to read it are 2 min I won't get back <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 25psi:
<strong> Why do people insists on saying it takes more money to make an import fast. There are dozens of stock imports that can spank a domestic ***. Case in point: Subaru Sti, EvoVIII, Mr2 Turbo, Rx-7 1.3liters. All of these cars run mid to low 13's stock. Aren't these cars faster than a camaro ls1 stock or mustang. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">First of all, please do not use camaro and mustang in the same sentence <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> 2nd, mid to low 13 stock huh? If you think a car running mid to low 13's is going to spank an LS1(you could beat a stang though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> ), step away from the crack pipe. There have been people that have run 12.9(or lower i believe) with just a k&n.

 

Those guys with stick shifts are lucky. My A4 is capable of 13.4 at 104 :-(