02 SS vs. 04 Mach 1
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02 SS vs. 04 Mach 1
Has anyone seen this vid? IMO it was Either staged or the Mach wasnt saying everything he had done b/c I think the races should have been much closer with the edge to the LS1......oh yah sorry if its a repost! Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQxDNuqcn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQxDNuqcn4
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Yeah I usually dont believe people when the list mods of the car they are racing, and then talk all sorts of ****. I mean how the hell do we know if that SS has Ls1 edit program on it? I mean dont get me wrong When my SS was stock I had a few good runs with some Mach 1's but with headers it was game over.
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Originally Posted by 71camaro
Yeah I usually dont believe people when the list mods of the car they are racing, and then talk all sorts of ****. I mean how the hell do we know if that SS has Ls1 edit program on it? I mean dont get me wrong When my SS was stock I had a few good runs with some Mach 1's but with headers it was game over.
^^^exactly, full exhaust LS1's w/ a tune will put 350 to the wheels, and with the mustangs mods he could not have been too close to that, most likely around 310-315
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Idk .... theres a guy around here 04 Azure Blue Mach 1 M5 ..... dynoed 275rwhp/289rwtq stock on the dynojet .... he's has ran a 12.90 in the 1/4 stock. I'll go ahead and say he kills the sh*t outta some ls1's round here .... most of em' can hang very well with him from a kick, some can beat him, unless he sprays, but anyways from a dead stop he whips that @ss for em'. Not tryin to start an arguement with anyone, I'm just saying. I guess his is a freak ...hell Idk ....
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Someting isnt right on those races i am willing to bet the mach has way more than that and the camaro is dead stock with 3.23 gears . Plus 12.9 isnt the norm for a mach1 in stock form .
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
an M6 02 LS1 vs an M5 02 Mach 1 the LS1 should win by at least 3-4 cars with equal drivers
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Originally Posted by Adam_346
Idk .... theres a guy around here 04 Azure Blue Mach 1 M5 ..... dynoed 275rwhp/289rwtq stock on the dynojet .... he's has ran a 12.90 in the 1/4 stock. I'll go ahead and say he kills the sh*t outta some ls1's round here .... most of em' can hang very well with him from a kick, some can beat him, unless he sprays, but anyways from a dead stop he whips that @ss for em'. Not tryin to start an arguement with anyone, I'm just saying. I guess his is a freak ...hell Idk ....
alabama isn't known for modding cars eh?
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Originally Posted by unit213
3-4 cars? Not a chance. With equal drivers, maybe half a car.
Well maybe i have just run into bad drivers, but I have driven both cars and from what I could tell LS1's are quite a bit faster in stock form.....at the local 1/8 mile I have seen catback Machs run 8.70s-8.80s, where as my stock A4 3.23 Formula ran 8.50's stock.....2-3 tenths is a couple of cars. I havent taken the Z out there yet though so I dont know what it runs....
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I stayed dead even in my 99 SS with just catback and lid with an 04 mach. (Auto SS). Once I put my headers on, ORY, tune--- the mach went about 3-4 cars back. Once I got my cam in... =p lol. The mach's are fun to play with, they sound good while racing em and pull well mid/low range.
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
I have raced more than a couple and stock for stock the LS1 will have a pretty big advantage, an M6 02 LS1 vs an M5 02 Mach 1 the LS1 should win by at least 3-4 cars with equal drivers
This video looks right to me. There are a few (not many but some) Mach1 guys that are sub 12.5 cars with those mods and an *** load that are high to mid 12's. And that Camaro was probably a high 12 second car. I think if the Camaro was a slightly better driver he would not have gotten pulled so hard, especially in the first two runs, but I still think those two cars with two good drivers the Mach1 is going to put about a car length on that Camaro.
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alabama isn't known for modding cars eh?
Originally Posted by unit213
3-4 cars? Not a chance. With equal drivers, maybe half a car.
Originally Posted by 2001z
Plus 12.9 isnt the norm for a mach1 in stock form .
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A friend of mine had a Mach 1 with CAI, Catback and pullys and he dyno'ed right around 300rwhp. I still have yet to run him but I still think it would be a pretty good race. Those 4 Valves are quick no doubt