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JM0523 06-23-2010 12:00 PM

How Many Miles Is Too Many Miles
 
My Camaro has 97K on it and i am wanting to cam it and put headers on it and was just wondering if that is too many miles to start doing that kind of stuff, whats your opinion on this and how many miles does your LS1 have on it?

J-Bru-Ha Z-28 06-23-2010 12:05 PM

I just put headers on mine with an ORY last spring, I have 114k on the clock right now and she is doing just fine. I will be interested to see what others have to say about the cam though, that will be my next mod if it will not require a rebuild first...

JM0523 06-23-2010 12:10 PM

Yeah i dont see where headers would cause any problems but the cam could possibly put excess wear on things, thats why i would like to get as many opinions as possible on this before i spend the $1000 dollars on putting a cam, springs, timing chain and oil pump on it, i want to know if i should focus that money on a rebuild.

Z28_LT1 06-23-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by JM0523 (Post 13507637)
Yeah i dont see where headers would cause any problems but the cam could possibly put excess wear on things, thats why i would like to get as many opinions as possible on this before i spend the $1000 dollars on putting a cam, springs, timing chain and oil pump on it, i want to know if i should focus that money on a rebuild.

That sounds like the start of a decent rebuild right there. Why not take it a little farther and be done with it?

snake95 06-23-2010 12:33 PM

You have a LOT of miles left on those tires ;) I usually say anything over 190 is too many...but that's not always true.

RPM WS6 06-23-2010 12:41 PM

Some engines show minimal wear at 97k. Some have been neglected and are in similar condition to engines with 197k. Others have been downright abused and are already dead/dying by 97k.

Are you the original owner of the car?

If you are concerned about the integrity of the engine, consider getting an oil analysis and compression test done. These things should help build a decent picture of your engine's internal condition.

JM0523 06-23-2010 03:06 PM

Yeah id say mine is pretty healthy it runs spectacular and the oil after 3k miles comes out looking dang near as clean as it did going in, ive heard the rod bolts in the LS1's stretch pretty bad and are about done by 100k though is this true?

RPM WS6 06-23-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by JM0523 (Post 13508406)
ive heard the rod bolts in the LS1's stretch pretty bad and are about done by 100k though is this true?

Stretching has less to do with mileage and more to do with high rpm operation. Have you bumped the limiter and been revving past 6200?

JM0523 06-23-2010 08:09 PM

No i actually turned the limiter down to 6000 because it wasnt wanting to shift from 2nd to 3rd at anything past about 5800

ULTIMATEORANGESS 06-23-2010 08:46 PM

id have a cam and headers installed. you can always reuse them.

JM0523 06-24-2010 12:39 AM

Yeah i agree, ill be going with the TSP Torquer V2 with 114LSA since ill be running the stock torque converter.

RPM WS6 06-24-2010 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by JM0523 (Post 13510874)
ill be running the stock torque converter.

Why?

Even the stock cam will greatly benefit from a 3500 stall. I would consider that the minimum for a cammed LS1.

Carter Hays 06-24-2010 01:54 AM

Do it. Putting extra muscle in a car is....well...FUN. Man, you have a Chevy ls1 the best bang for the buck, if it blows up then build it up.... :drive: Don't worry have fun, that's what these cars are for.

full boost 06-24-2010 07:27 AM

when it stops running , do what you wat

Mike454SS 06-24-2010 07:37 AM

All of the replies to threads like these are usually based on nonsense and heresay...if the engine has good compression (compression and leakdown test) and good oil pressure, take a sample of the oil, send it to blackstone labs and ask them what they think of it...after that, mod the car.

My Camaro has 193K on it, I took all the stock exhaust (manifolds, cats, Y pipe and catback) off in March of this year...when it was in the 180K range, put QTP longtubes and a set of 3" true duals on the car...and if I wasn't spending money on the engine for my other car, I'd have a cam and heads going on this one before summer is over.

What if a 2000 has 14K miles on it, but 400,000 hours idling? My 2000 has 193K on it, but barely any time just sitting around idling...what if it had only 20K on it, 1/4 mile at a time, with the oil not at the right level and the gas pedal on the floor?

If you ask me, the odometer doesn't record all that much regarding the history of the car unless YOU have owned it since it was new.

JM0523 06-24-2010 01:27 PM

Bump!!!!!

rg501 06-24-2010 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mike454SS (Post 13511428)
All of the replies to threads like these are usually based on nonsense and heresay...if the engine has good compression (compression and leakdown test) and good oil pressure, take a sample of the oil, send it to blackstone labs and ask them what they think of it...after that, mod the car.

My Camaro has 193K on it, I took all the stock exhaust (manifolds, cats, Y pipe and catback) off in March of this year...when it was in the 180K range, put QTP longtubes and a set of 3" true duals on the car...and if I wasn't spending money on the engine for my other car, I'd have a cam and heads going on this one before summer is over.

What if a 2000 has 14K miles on it, but 400,000 hours idling? My 2000 has 193K on it, but barely any time just sitting around idling...what if it had only 20K on it, 1/4 mile at a time, with the oil not at the right level and the gas pedal on the floor?

If you ask me, the odometer doesn't record all that much regarding the history of the car unless YOU have owned it since it was new.

very true. it all depends on how its driven. my car had 140k on the clock when i first got it, but it was owned by an older lady all its life and stored winters. assuming older ladys dont drive like i do, then i believe my car has plenty of life left. ;)

CJDZ24_Z28 06-24-2010 04:36 PM

Mileage means nothing and the LS1 is a great motor. I have had several with over 150k and a cammed Formula with 130k. Here is a testament to the LS1! This is the last one i owned! Look at the odometer lol

Here is a video to the last LS1 F-Body I owned it was poorly maintained by the previous owner yet still started up everytime. I have owned serveral LS1's with over 165k. My C5 just hit 90k 2 days ago

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...t=nov16036.flv

blackz28x07 06-24-2010 06:30 PM

stall then headers then cam. That's what I'd do IMO.


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