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Old 08-29-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ell Ess Won
That was the most foolish thing I've ever read.

If that's the case, the same can be said for WS6 owners like you who says theres a "great difference in handling" because you bought the WS6. What it comes down to is the facts, and the facts are there is literally zero-difference outside of the 32mm sway bar and the very slightly larger wheels. The rest is in your head/pride.
In STOCK form the Ws6 compared to the stock Trans Am does feel better b/c of the wider tires and stiffer sway bars. He did not say he was going to mod it specifically for anything. There is no difference in springs or shocks unless you get the Firehawk, this I know. I plainly said the WS6 feels better than the regular trans am and it does in stock form. If that is foolish then i guess I am just a fool. Maybe im just too proud of my hood right? Some sure are quick to try to make others look bad on here.....
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Well I think my first investment would be a set of 17' Y2k Vette wheels anyways....

And is the thicker swaybar in the front underneath the car or in the rear?
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Originally Posted by CK9887
Isnt the shock valving and spring rates different in the WS6 too?
Shocks are all the same DeCarbon units for all V8 F-bodies. I've read rumors that the '98-'99 WS6 cars had 1LE springs, but I have yet to see hard facts. As for the '00+ WS6 cars, both the shocks and springs are exactly the same as the other non-1LE/ non-Bilstein cars.

Originally Posted by Platinum WS6
In STOCK form the Ws6 compared to the stock Trans Am does feel better b/c of the wider tires and stiffer sway bars.
Only one sway bar. The front on all years WS6 is a 32mm 1LE bar + bushings (vs 30mm for standard/base V8 cars). The rear is the same 19mm bar that is provided on all V8 F-bodies.

Technically you are correct, in 100% stock form the WS6 feels a little better. But most of us change to 17X9 or bigger wheels anyway, thus the difference will vanish. That 32mm bar does next to nothing.

Since the original thread poster asked if the WS6 car was "worth it" for better handling, the answer is no. You can get the wheels for much less than the cost difference of a WS6 and have equal handling.

Now, that is NOT to say that a WS6 isn't worth it to somebody that wants a real WS6 car. Remember, I too used to own a WS6 (beautiful cars). But if the only reason why he's interested in the WS6 is for handling, then it's simply not worth the extra money.

Only reason to buy a WS6 is for how it looks and/or because you just want a real WS6.
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Originally Posted by CK9887
And is the thicker swaybar in the front underneath the car or in the rear?
See my above post.
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Good to know... So the sway bar we are talking about goes underneath the car correct? Not like across the engine bay ?

Thanks for all the info.. Makes me feel better about buying a regular TA
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Originally Posted by CK9887
Good to know... So the sway bar we are talking about goes underneath the car correct? Not like across the engine bay ?

Thanks for all the info.. Makes me feel better about buying a regular TA
Yes, both front and rear sway bars go under the car. The bars you see across the engine bay are called strut tower braces. These do not come stock on 4th gen F-bodies, they are aftermarket add-ons.

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Ok well this is pretty much an opinion question then and I think its worth the money to get b/c you dont have to get a hood, wheels and hope the paint matches good enough along with the lines matching up on an aftermarket hood.
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My SS handles it's *** off but rides like ****, a Z28 rides slightly better (slightly higher ride height/taller tire profile) and I didn't notice how much worse it handles cuz I didn't push it to it's limits in curves. If you really want a good handler get a Firehawk, but if you want extremely good handling, you're going to need stronger aftermarket suspension components anyway. Are you going to autocross it or something? If so, get a formula or trans am and spend the money you saved on suspension. If you want to handle great and the car to stay stock then get a Firehawk, You can make a Trans Am handle just as good as a WS6 for a couple hundred bucks. Firehawk (and SS) get 35mm front and rear swaybars, slightly lower stance, Bilsteins, solid end links, I think that's about it. Most Firehawks (98-02) going for $23-30,000 unless it's perfect condition or low miles then you're looking at almost new price....Just get a TA
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Originally Posted by DarthQuaider
Firehawk (and SS) get 35mm front and rear swaybars, slightly lower stance, Bilsteins, solid end links, I think that's about it.
This is incorrect information for the SS cars.

My Firehawk knowledge is limited, however:

I’m not certain as to what is standard vs optional on a Firehawk, but as for a base (non-Y2Y) SS, they come with 32mm front/19mm rear bars (not the 35mm that you state) and the same DeCarbon shocks as all other V8 F-bodies.

Bilsteins are an SLP Y2Y option and are NOT found on all SS cars. They could be ordered on an SS for an extra fee.
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Originally Posted by Platinum WS6
Ok well this is pretty much an opinion question then and I think its worth the money to get b/c you dont have to get a hood, wheels and hope the paint matches good enough along with the lines matching up on an aftermarket hood.
No arguement there, but the debate here isn't about looks.

If the specific question is, "Is a WS6 worth the extra money for better stock handling than a base T/A?", then the answer is simply No.
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there's no difference man. an f-body is an f-body.
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Originally Posted by 1cleanbird
there's no difference man. an f-body is an f-body.
That has to be the most ignorant comment I've ever read.
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My 99 TA WS6 does have the 1LE springs, but my understanding was that they quit putting those on the WS6's in 2000. Friend has a 2000 WS6 and was inquiring as to why mine sat lower and we figured it out by comparing our RPO codes............ The 1LE springs were included in the RPO codes on mine but not his
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WS6, I love it!
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Originally Posted by Rick99TAWS6
My 99 TA WS6 does have the 1LE springs, but my understanding was that they quit putting those on the WS6's in 2000. Friend has a 2000 WS6 and was inquiring as to why mine sat lower and we figured it out by comparing our RPO codes............ The 1LE springs were included in the RPO codes on mine but not his
Interesting.

I was under the impression that all 1LE components were covered under the “1LE” RPO. What is this RPO that you have that signifies *only* the 1LE springs? I’ve never seen a code for that before.

IIRC, you could get the entire 1LE package as an option on WS6 cars for ’98/’99 (and possible other years as well???).
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Originally Posted by CK9887
Good to know... So the sway bar we are talking about goes underneath the car correct? Not like across the engine bay ?

Thanks for all the info.. Makes me feel better about buying a regular TA

LOL NEWB!!!! strut tower brace is what your thinking about! lol gesh i thought i taught you better than that!!!

ok heres what you do...

buy a T/A....
find springs off a c5 vette,
then the LCA's,
then some SRT-4 brakes,
and a new #8 sparkplug(NGK tr8's) and youll be set!!!

trust me ive done this 4 times and raced plenty of dodge trucks and beat them all!!!!
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Well my SS is a 2001 and it does have 35mm swaybar in front, I'm not sure on the rear but it does have Bilsteins. I have the Y2Y RPO code. Checkmate Beeyotch

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I have a base t/a, am 100% happy with it. It does have an aftermarket hood. It is unique compared to ws6's and i like that. Got some goodies in both the suspension and performance so it is a better car.
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You'd basically be paying for the "ws.6" name. Might help sustain the value of the car a little bit if nothing else. I'd personally rather have the ws.6 but that's just me. Not because it's necessarily a faster or better handeling car though.
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Originally Posted by 05 GSXR 1XXX
LOL NEWB!!!! strut tower brace is what your thinking about! lol gesh i thought i taught you better than that!!!

ok heres what you do...

buy a T/A....
find springs off a c5 vette,
then the LCA's,
then some SRT-4 brakes,
and a new #8 sparkplug(NGK tr8's) and youll be set!!!

trust me ive done this 4 times and raced plenty of dodge trucks and beat them all!!!!




i tried the tr8's the tr47's made me be able to drag a metro


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