turbo94supra

I am not that familiar with the ls1 as I have a turbo supra. I always wanted and will be buyina a 98-02 camaro or T/A. I wanted to know About how much money it would take to get about 600 rwhp with out nitrous. Also what needs to be up graged internals, tranny, rear end ect... I do not need to know all the mods as I know the basics of the that, I just need to learn about the ls1 strengths and potencial.

any info will be appreciated
thanks

transamfreak01

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full bolt ons, turbo/supercharger, internals, rear end, tranny, and suspention. im gonna go with like 15 grand but could be more or less just what im thinking. oh and i would go with a bigger cubic inch motor too. remember theres no replacement for displacement, just my 2 cents

jamesSS

id say read the forced induction stickies. unless you want to buy a stroker motor, 600 rwhp isnt going to be easy N/A. the ls1 bottem end is good for around 500-600hp, but for how long, thats anyones guess. your best bet is getting a forged block from one of our sponsers, and either a turbo kit or super charger. if your looking for a turbo setup, speed inc has got a killer one i believe they just finished up. if you are going with an M6 trans, you will need a better clutch than stock, and most likely, a 12 bolt rear end or 9 inch(people have broke their stock 10 bolt with near stock power and sticky tires). if you buy a car with an automatic (A4), you will need to either rebuild your trans to handle that power, or get a th 400. once again, a new stronger rear end. dont forget your fuel system.

either way you look at it, it will be big $$$$ to do it right. i hope i helped. but like i said, read the FI stickies, they should help you more than anything.

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about 8 grand to do it right, head, cam, full bolt ons, 402 block assembly, moser rear end, etc....

like the view?

about 8 grand to do it right, head, cam, full bolt ons, 402 block assembly, moser rear end, etc....

B.W.

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If no nitrous, you're going to need forced induction. Unless you have a large displacement stroker motor with one of the most radical heads/cam setups. From there it really depends on what you want the car to do as far as hook up at the strip or be a street car. But you will be doing a lot more than engine work to have 600rwhp reliably.

deadmanTA

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There's a sticky in forced induction section about the real cost of FI.

NoGamesLS1

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8 grand only if your trading blow jobs for parts

turbo94supra

I will probably look into a turbo or supercharger, and it will be a m6

thanks for the qiuck replys this help alot on what I need to pick up for the project

If I do change the block is the 402 my best choice???

I might need to lower my hp goal.

30thanniv

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What happens if you end up with 599 rwp? or 598rwhp?
Quit with the numbers. You don't impress anyone except little boys and peope that don't know anything about cars by quoting rwhp.
If you have et slips from the track that shows your car moves, then it is impressive.

turbo94supra

Who big fella, I said about 600rwhp, I does not have to be exactly 600. That is my goal and if you dont set goal yourself then you will get anything done. I dont really go to the track so puck your time slips.

All you care about is the track, strait line performance for 1/4 mile. There are other types of racing, just to let you know.

If you are not going to help please dont post.

30thanniv

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So let me see, You need 600 rwhp for the type of racing you are doing?
Pray tell, what sanctioning body are you racing under that requires you to have 600 rwhp.
If you don't think I am trying to help, you missed the whole point of my post.
Obviously there is more then straight line racing.
The goal you need to set is performance oriented, not rwhp oriented. RWHP is BS if you can't put it to the ground to do what you want to do with it. If you want to do burn outs and impress buddies by saying you have 600 rwhp then it's a waste of money. But heck it's your money.
I guess it's my fault for thinking you wanted a car that hauled *** and accomplished a goal other then BS benchracing with your buddies.
Next time you pull something out of your butt, check and see if your head is still in there.

2000SS1979

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LMFAO! But I would guess more about 15- 20k if you want it done right.

darrensls1

I too liked the BJ comment

15-20K is definately in the ball park. I'm shooting for 500 rwhp on motor and 650-700 on spray. Now I am buying good parts vs bang for the buck but still...

ETP 240 heads, custom cam, fast 90/90, belts, bolts, underdrive pulley, TNT kit, oil pump, fuel pump, injectors, dyno tune and installation = $7,800.

LME 408 iron block = $4400 shipped.

4L80E conversion with torque converter = $4,000

12 bolt rear end = $2,000

That's $18,200 and that doesn't include safety gear to run at the track. 10 point cage alone can run $1500 installed

I should of taken up bowling instead

Cerebrex

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You sir, are a dick, and obviously missed the entire point. It's a GOAL. GTFO and go whip out your **** elsewhere.

Urban Legend

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You will need a Procharger or Turbo and have a lot of disposable income. It will be way over 15,000.00. Way over.

Cerebrex

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I agree, your typical heads/cam/intake/exhaust ALONE will be around 7K when it's all said and done. We're talking REAL numbers here, not how much a heads/cam package costs because I have never seen one that included everything you truly need.

'Trust'

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Probably not, if your boosting it an Iron 408 will be a more suited application with 8:1 CR most likely. Of course NA it won't make the power of a higher CR motor, but your building it for boost. A iron 408 and a F1 procharger will be PLENTY, but then you'll need the mods to handle it. There is a Vette here with a blown 408 with 8:1 trapping 142 on street tires if that means anything to ya!

NoGamesLS1

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I can be done for 15-17k I would say. Ive got about 12-13 at the most into my motor. I still need a cage, 9", and full suspension, NO2 and a final tune. Oh and I should be in the area of 550-570rwhp all motor. Shooting for 800+ with the spray
But hey man, if you've got the time just keep looking on the classifieds and pickup most the stuff used. You can save a TON of money by going that route. I remember seeing this guy that spent like 20 grand on a 427 then ran into some money or family problems and was getting rid of it for like 12 grand so.....

I have spent this much and done all the labor (minus shortblock) myself

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You are right i misjudged what i said, 8 grand might get you a block assembly mild heads, cams and full bolt ons. Maybe even a rear end but that is if you do all the labor yourself.