not your average synthetic oil thread
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not your average synthetic oil thread
i just bought my t/a but i dont know if the previous owner used sythetics or not. is there any tricks to figure out if the oil in it is sythetic or not? i know i could just throw sythetic in it to be safe but college student duties make me have to scrape every penny i have together right now so i'd like to stick with regular motor oil and fill up the tank with the saved money
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There's really not any sure way to tell if the oil thats in there right now is synthetic. You could get an oil analysis done which would tell you the current viscosity, and other basic things about the oils condition...If you would prefer to run regular oil in it, than dont even worry about synthetic..even if the owner did use synthetic your not going to cause any harm at all by putting a conventional oil in your car.
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Synthetic oil has smaller particles and takes longer to break down and may last longer but... the oil filter doesn't! So you still need to change your oil just as often. read the oil filter box. After the oil filter is full or clogged it just runs the oil through the by pass in the filter and does no filtering at all. Also, switching to synthetic oil can cause leaks due to having smaller particles. especially in older engines...
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It doesn't matter whether there is synthetic in there now because you're going to change it soon, anyway.
It also doesn't matter whether synthetic was in it because it doesn't hurt your motor to change from/to conventional/synthetic.
And, since you are trying to save money, you're going to be smart by purchasing a name brand 5w-30 conventional oil and a non-Fram filter and change oil every 3k to 5k miles.
Sound good?
It also doesn't matter whether synthetic was in it because it doesn't hurt your motor to change from/to conventional/synthetic.
And, since you are trying to save money, you're going to be smart by purchasing a name brand 5w-30 conventional oil and a non-Fram filter and change oil every 3k to 5k miles.
Sound good?
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i agree with the off brand syn. it meets the standards for engine so who cares what the label says. i use it in every vehicle i have ever owned. never any problems.
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Synthetic oil has smaller particles and takes longer to break down and may last longer but... the oil filter doesn't! So you still need to change your oil just as often. read the oil filter box. After the oil filter is full or clogged it just runs the oil through the by pass in the filter and does no filtering at all. Also, switching to synthetic oil can cause leaks due to having smaller particles. especially in older engines...
Respectfully - synthetic oil does not have "smaller particles" and does not "run out" where a conventional (re: organic base) oil would not.
In some engines where there is a lot of sludge buildup and where the gaskets and seals might be old and suspect, a highly detergent modern synthetic oil CAN clean up deposits and bring to the fore an oil leak that was "clogged" by sludge that a conventional oil could not dissolve.
I hear this old wives tale a lot and have yet to read any damning proof against the use of synthetic (including it's use in my old 1961 Panhead Harley - you should have heard the blatantly WRONG stuff guys would tell you about what to run in that lol...)
Also, I have read tribology reports that say that an oil filter gets more efficient after it is used a while - and that it is actually better to run your oil filter for two oil change cycles.
I would never do this, but the point is that if you are changing your oil regularly and you have an actual air cleaner, you will not clog an oil filter during any reasonable change interval.
If you are really inclined and want to keep the pulse of your engine, you would have an oil filter cutter and you would be examining the contents of the used oil filters for copper particles etc.
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The stuff that lubricates your engine isn't something I would skimp on...
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Unless you abuse your motor or do extended oil change intervals, you're simply throwing money away by buying the best oil when it isn't indicated. Your choice, though.
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