LS1 600whp NA or 900whp turbo???
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LS1 600whp NA or 900whp turbo???
Let me tell you that this is my first V8 engine.
And I want some extra from it, so please tell me if I am totaly wrong!!!
1999 LS1 enigne street car with T56 tranny
Ported heads, intake/exhaust + flow tested
arp head studs
arp main studs
cometic headgaskets
forged pistons 14:1
forged h-beam rods + arp bolts
clevitte bearings
stock balanced cranck
race cam "something"
stock intake valve
stock exhaust valve
springs 0.655 lift COMP Cams #26921-16 or better
aluminum rockers 1.8 ratio
chromoly pushrods
8 x 1600cc inj
weldon 2345 fuelpump
aeromotive fpr
ECU autronic SM4
ingnition autronic CDI500R
bosch twin tower coils
running on E85 fuel
will this make 600whp NA @ 8000rpm ???
Or should I change the compression to 8-8.5:1
and run twin T04S and twin 44mm tial wastegates ???
I know that there is books about this stuff but I cant wait....this drives me crazy
If u find that I need more stuff then please dont hesitate to put on the list,
And yes almost forgot....sorry for my english.
Thanx.
And I want some extra from it, so please tell me if I am totaly wrong!!!
1999 LS1 enigne street car with T56 tranny
Ported heads, intake/exhaust + flow tested
arp head studs
arp main studs
cometic headgaskets
forged pistons 14:1
forged h-beam rods + arp bolts
clevitte bearings
stock balanced cranck
race cam "something"
stock intake valve
stock exhaust valve
springs 0.655 lift COMP Cams #26921-16 or better
aluminum rockers 1.8 ratio
chromoly pushrods
8 x 1600cc inj
weldon 2345 fuelpump
aeromotive fpr
ECU autronic SM4
ingnition autronic CDI500R
bosch twin tower coils
running on E85 fuel
will this make 600whp NA @ 8000rpm ???
Or should I change the compression to 8-8.5:1
and run twin T04S and twin 44mm tial wastegates ???
I know that there is books about this stuff but I cant wait....this drives me crazy
If u find that I need more stuff then please dont hesitate to put on the list,
And yes almost forgot....sorry for my english.
Thanx.
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you're going to need a forged crank, forged rods, forged pistons, aftermarket heads probably with extensive CNC work, a fairly radical cam, and a VERY free flowing intake/exhaust....do some searching around in the Dyno section of this site and see what power people are making with their setups to give you an idea of what you'll need.
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i second that. not for nothing but this is your FIRST v8 vehicle and you want 900rwhp ls1? build a forged motor with a direct port and spray the ***** out of it.
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If you go ahead and get some aftermarket heads rather than sticking with stock castings I could see you making over 500rwhp(but on the low side) with that kind of compression along with a large cam.
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depending on the cam, and how well the heads flow. Maybe 480rwhp with 14:1 compression and spinning to 8000K. But I doubt it would last much longer than one or two dyno pulls. Should consider going with a 427 or 454 if you want 600 rwhp.
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i say go turbo! FI has been done time and time again and there are some grate kit out there. stock cube motros are making gobs and gobs of power these days. and you could run 900rwbhp on pump fuel!!!
just my opinion
Chris.
just my opinion
Chris.
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usseles on the street??? I dont think so ....I am used to low tq engines
I think I am going to go Turbo LS1.... should make 900whp easy!!!
If I dont rev the engine more than 7000rpm do I still have to change the crank???
consider that all the other parts are changed (forged stuff), asking just about the crank
thanx.
I think I am going to go Turbo LS1.... should make 900whp easy!!!
If I dont rev the engine more than 7000rpm do I still have to change the crank???
consider that all the other parts are changed (forged stuff), asking just about the crank
thanx.
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this thread is pointless..
you need to get a true handle on what 900hp means.. i see way to many people throw numbers around like that without a clue
and if you want it to be reliable.. you better have $$ to do it correctly..
you need to get a true handle on what 900hp means.. i see way to many people throw numbers around like that without a clue
and if you want it to be reliable.. you better have $$ to do it correctly..
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pointless
The reason that I ask this pointless question is simple...."starvation"
And I wanna know why not to use the oem crank, if u cant explain then please dont decide what is and is not pointless.
900hp is what it is.....
I already know that power is not cheap!!!
But knowledge is king so if u dont have it then please stop
Thanx
The reason that I ask this pointless question is simple...."starvation"
And I wanna know why not to use the oem crank, if u cant explain then please dont decide what is and is not pointless.
900hp is what it is.....
I already know that power is not cheap!!!
But knowledge is king so if u dont have it then please stop
Thanx
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I agree that the thread is pointless. Someone impatient enough to do absolutely NO prior research certainly has no grasp of what they are really asking. Even the simplest few clicks on this site would have revealed the dyno results section, and a few searches and reading would have completely answered your questions.
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pointless
The reason that I ask this pointless question is simple...."starvation"
And I wanna know why not to use the oem crank, if u cant explain then please dont decide what is and is not pointless.
900hp is what it is.....
I already know that power is not cheap!!!
But knowledge is king so if u dont have it then please stop
Thanx
The reason that I ask this pointless question is simple...."starvation"
And I wanna know why not to use the oem crank, if u cant explain then please dont decide what is and is not pointless.
900hp is what it is.....
I already know that power is not cheap!!!
But knowledge is king so if u dont have it then please stop
Thanx
Those that have 1000hp dont need the internet to tell them how..
If you truly are serious, dont ask "how can i make XXXhp" do your research and learn. Lots of fast guys on this site.. (go visit the 9 second and faster drag section) Or just pay someone to build it.
I got nothing against you, but there are thousands of threads that start the exact same way yours has...
here is how i would have phrased the question...
"what are the design limitations to rotational speed and force for a stock crankshaft and how are they addressed by changing to a forged crankshaft"
FYI: https://ls1tech.com/forums/advanced-engineering-tech/396223-what-forum-please-read-before-posting.html
Last edited by DanO; 07-17-2008 at 10:06 PM.
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usseles on the street??? I dont think so ....I am used to low tq engines
I think I am going to go Turbo LS1.... should make 900whp easy!!!
If I dont rev the engine more than 7000rpm do I still have to change the crank???
consider that all the other parts are changed (forged stuff), asking just about the crank
thanx.
I think I am going to go Turbo LS1.... should make 900whp easy!!!
If I dont rev the engine more than 7000rpm do I still have to change the crank???
consider that all the other parts are changed (forged stuff), asking just about the crank
thanx.
It will have traction problems, it will be loud and probably get you pulled over, it will probably have a hard time idling, it will need race gas, the powerband will be really peaky.
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If you want streetable 600hp you gotta go big inch like 427ci or 454ci and that's not cheap.
OR go forged rods and pistons with stock crank 370ci, stock 6.0L Iron block + FI. (APS twin Turbo rocks)
If i were you i would go forced Induction (I LOVE TURBO'S AND I CAN'T GET ENOUGH ) Its not cheap though but it's worth every penny.
OR go forged rods and pistons with stock crank 370ci, stock 6.0L Iron block + FI. (APS twin Turbo rocks)
If i were you i would go forced Induction (I LOVE TURBO'S AND I CAN'T GET ENOUGH ) Its not cheap though but it's worth every penny.