Nitrious Outlet Halo dry kit
04-29-2010, 01:13 AM
#2
yes, i had the halo bar that sat under the lid. i had issues with it. i tried spraying just a 100 shot and it would come on super soft and keep leaking nitrous through the bar after. i tested it and found that it simply wasn't able to flow the little shot - it would keep going at the same rate for about 1-2 seconds after deactivation on a 3 second test.
instead of contacting nitrous outlet about it, i took it upon myself to drill out the little holes around the bar and make them slightly bigger - it helped a little, but i came to the conclusion there must have been some defect somewhere within the bar.
i simply gave up on it. the build quality wasn't impressive and i didn't want to take another chance on a replacement. i cant recall any other complaints about the spray bars, so my experience was probably just one compared to who knows how many happy customers are out there. nitrous outlet sells a lot of stuff and most of it is decent.
instead of contacting nitrous outlet about it, i took it upon myself to drill out the little holes around the bar and make them slightly bigger - it helped a little, but i came to the conclusion there must have been some defect somewhere within the bar.
i simply gave up on it. the build quality wasn't impressive and i didn't want to take another chance on a replacement. i cant recall any other complaints about the spray bars, so my experience was probably just one compared to who knows how many happy customers are out there. nitrous outlet sells a lot of stuff and most of it is decent.
04-29-2010, 09:45 AM
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yes, i had the halo bar that sat under the lid. i had issues with it. i tried spraying just a 100 shot and it would come on super soft and keep leaking nitrous through the bar after. i tested it and found that it simply wasn't able to flow the little shot - it would keep going at the same rate for about 1-2 seconds after deactivation on a 3 second test.
instead of contacting nitrous outlet about it, i took it upon myself to drill out the little holes around the bar and make them slightly bigger - it helped a little, but i came to the conclusion there must have been some defect somewhere within the bar.
i simply gave up on it. the build quality wasn't impressive and i didn't want to take another chance on a replacement. i cant recall any other complaints about the spray bars, so my experience was probably just one compared to who knows how many happy customers are out there. nitrous outlet sells a lot of stuff and most of it is decent.
instead of contacting nitrous outlet about it, i took it upon myself to drill out the little holes around the bar and make them slightly bigger - it helped a little, but i came to the conclusion there must have been some defect somewhere within the bar.
i simply gave up on it. the build quality wasn't impressive and i didn't want to take another chance on a replacement. i cant recall any other complaints about the spray bars, so my experience was probably just one compared to who knows how many happy customers are out there. nitrous outlet sells a lot of stuff and most of it is decent.
04-29-2010, 10:42 PM
#6
yes, i had the halo bar that sat under the lid. i had issues with it. i tried spraying just a 100 shot and it would come on super soft and keep leaking nitrous through the bar after. i tested it and found that it simply wasn't able to flow the little shot - it would keep going at the same rate for about 1-2 seconds after deactivation on a 3 second test.
instead of contacting nitrous outlet about it, i took it upon myself to drill out the little holes around the bar and make them slightly bigger - it helped a little, but i came to the conclusion there must have been some defect somewhere within the bar.
i simply gave up on it. the build quality wasn't impressive and i didn't want to take another chance on a replacement. i cant recall any other complaints about the spray bars, so my experience was probably just one compared to who knows how many happy customers are out there. nitrous outlet sells a lot of stuff and most of it is decent.
instead of contacting nitrous outlet about it, i took it upon myself to drill out the little holes around the bar and make them slightly bigger - it helped a little, but i came to the conclusion there must have been some defect somewhere within the bar.
i simply gave up on it. the build quality wasn't impressive and i didn't want to take another chance on a replacement. i cant recall any other complaints about the spray bars, so my experience was probably just one compared to who knows how many happy customers are out there. nitrous outlet sells a lot of stuff and most of it is decent.
There are many of things that can determain how hard the system hits. The distance of the solenoid from the discharge ports can play a huge roll as well as the distance of the discharge from the intake. Airfuel and bottle pressure can also affect how hard a system hits.
From the testing we have done on the dyno with a clear MTI lid the system worked and tuned flawlessly when propely installed. When we shut the system off there was no slow bleed off. If you are flowing into the air its not the same invironment as it is under acceleration in the airbox.
Not sure how your system was set up but our complete system consist of a 500 hp solenoid with a 2 ft 3an hose to the spray bar. The jet is at the spray bar inlet which is poking through the bottom of the airfilter.
How was your system set up and how were you monitoring flow under acceleration?
Dave
04-29-2010, 10:45 PM
#7
It will completely fog the air intake track making sure that the mass air meter compensates for the nitrous.
Dave
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04-30-2010, 12:36 AM
#8
for reference... here is a nice high resolution photo of the spraybar from nitrous outlet's site. http://nitrousoutlet.com/img.asp?p=/...NO-00-4101.jpg
Not sure how long ago it was you bought one. But our earlier designs had the spray discharge in the front. After a while we found that putting the discharges in each side gave better over all results so we changed up the design alittle bit.
There are many of things that can determain how hard the system hits. The distance of the solenoid from the discharge ports can play a huge roll as well as the distance of the discharge from the intake. Airfuel and bottle pressure can also affect how hard a system hits.
From the testing we have done on the dyno with a clear MTI lid the system worked and tuned flawlessly when propely installed. When we shut the system off there was no slow bleed off. If you are flowing into the air its not the same invironment as it is under acceleration in the airbox.
Not sure how your system was set up but our complete system consist of a 500 hp solenoid with a 2 ft 3an hose to the spray bar. The jet is at the spray bar inlet which is poking through the bottom of the airfilter.
How was your system set up and how were you monitoring flow under acceleration?
Dave
There are many of things that can determain how hard the system hits. The distance of the solenoid from the discharge ports can play a huge roll as well as the distance of the discharge from the intake. Airfuel and bottle pressure can also affect how hard a system hits.
From the testing we have done on the dyno with a clear MTI lid the system worked and tuned flawlessly when propely installed. When we shut the system off there was no slow bleed off. If you are flowing into the air its not the same invironment as it is under acceleration in the airbox.
Not sure how your system was set up but our complete system consist of a 500 hp solenoid with a 2 ft 3an hose to the spray bar. The jet is at the spray bar inlet which is poking through the bottom of the airfilter.
How was your system set up and how were you monitoring flow under acceleration?
Dave
with a carefully crafted prototype, i certainly don't doubt your flawless test, but something was definitely wrong with my spray bar. i still have it sitting around for some reason, but i never cared to send it back since i drilled out the holes a little bigger.
my setup also had a 500hp nitrous outlet solenoid with a 20inch (slightly shorter than your 2ft line) 3an line to the jet which was also just under the filter.
i've attached pictures to show you how i had it installed (2.5 years ago).
bottle was always 900-1000 psi. i had hptuners hooked up and logged runs with me testing it over and over again for several days. at the time i simply gave up on it and went back to aiming a 70 degree nozzle at the maf until the interface came out.
04-30-2010, 02:03 AM
#10
From what I am reading, since the Halo ring is placed further away from the MAF then a typical nozzle (which is placed a few inches away from the MAF), it tends to hit softer. Now the fog that is produced in the Lid is a better spray pattern than the nozzle's. Why? That part I do not know.
For me, the softer kit is "better" for me. I like the "softer" hit. I wouldn't want it coming on strong and putting that instantaneous demand on my rotating parts. I haven't read anything that confirms this but my logic leads me to believe that it might help with getting more traction to the ground too. Since it is for a few miliseconds "progressive" in a sense. I'm a Nitrous Noob so someone correct me if I am wrong as I don't want any more false claims on LS1Tech.com. Lord knows we have enough of that already.
01-21-2014, 09:47 PM
#11
Back from the dead. How would this setup work on a car that has the MAF tuned out and running an OLSD tune? From what I've been reading, this dry setup works so well because the MAF can compensate for the dry shot by adding fuel. An OLSD tune would not automatically do this so it would need to be addressed in the VE tables? Am I right, or way off?
