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Mar 6, 2003 | 05:43 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

wait how sure are you about this? i thought Tim ran the 10.95 @ 122 mph he was running his bogarts on the big 28" moser and his TNT shot?

Mar 6, 2003 | 07:33 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

No, that was with 410 gears and 26.5 ET streets, damn I thought you new every thing GATOR!

Mar 6, 2003 | 09:39 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

well damn anil i guess i was wrong. i thought time told me differently. i dont know everything, must be listening to too much Bogi out there in st louis <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

so if 28" + 4.56 is not possible, but 4.10 and 26" et streets are ok, i am confused? esp considering i KNOW Tosto was on stock internals when he did run 10s. so how do you explain that reasoning?

i thougth you team R&J guys could do anything! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Mar 6, 2003 | 10:36 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

That's right the Teamed Rigged and Jimmied own all you KC boys when it comes to track times and street racing!

Tim made that pass once into the tens and smoked his clutch and tore up his 10 bolt! The car will still go ten's on the bottle but he's not going to be able to stay in it the whole time unless he spins the motor to 7000+rpm. And with a stock bottom in GOOD LUCK!

Plus, he is running 28 inch tall tire and did not modify his rear fender wells, on the bottle his tires my grow a lot more and cut into the fender well. I would be careful because at 130+ losing a slick = bad news.

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Mar 6, 2003 | 11:06 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

What about with a th350 & 410's, 28" tire??????????

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
 ok lets say you trap 130 on the spray. With 4.11's and a 28" tire that would put you right at about 6500 ~ 6600 rpms, which is just about perfect. If you want to spin the motor to 7k or higher to cross the traps in 4th then by all means go for it and let us know how well it works out for you. <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />

Honestly since you already have 4.10's I would just leave them in and see how the car acts at the track. If you absoloutly need to switch then try it and see what happens. <hr /></blockquote>

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Mar 7, 2003 | 12:26 AM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Screamin_Z:
 one of my friends buddies in St. Luie has a 12 bolt w/ 4.56, 28" slicks, clutch and 100 shot dry. he loves it and has had no trouble running that setup. yes he shifts into 5th.......so what????? I don't know why it's so hard for someone to grasp the concept of having to shift into 5th. what are u gonna lose 1mph and MAYBE a 1 or 2 hundreths of a second??? he ran a 10.99 on ONLY that setup, stock internals, stock suspention, even stock manifolds. it can be done and it is done. I'm doing it this season, can't wait. <hr /></blockquote>Your wrong, They have never made a pass on the bottle with 456 gears. Plus,you think your going to be able to shift an mn6 with H/C and 150 shot our of the hole? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

And the you can kiss the clutch good by spraying into 5th gear with 28 in tall slicks.

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Mar 7, 2003 | 03:41 AM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

Damn, I think you guys know more about my car than I do <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> Didn't realize my car was so famous <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> Just to set the record straight I don't intend to make very many all out n2o passes just a few so I think the clutch, shortblock or whatever else will be fine. As far as the slicks growing hadn't thought about that one yet. Shifting the car on the bottle? <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> Guess we will find out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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Mar 7, 2003 | 07:50 AM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

I would really check the growing of the tire, most people have to cut the rear fenders(bumper Cover) so the slicks will clear, Talk to 02 COACH, he had this problem and cost him 2 brand new slicks.

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Mar 7, 2003 | 10:51 AM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ANIL8U:
...unless he spins the motor to 7000+rpm. And with a stock bottom in GOOD LUCK!
<hr /></blockquote>I have been spinning my stock bottom end to 7,000 RPM's for a year now with absolutely ZERO problems...perfect oil pressure with stock 98 oil pump and with ZERO oil consumption <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> , I have 4.56 gears and spray <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> ....quit being so wussy...it is the guys that do what everyone thinks won't work that go the fastest <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

Mar 7, 2003 | 01:48 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

Yeah, that’s why my 2000 Z mn6 with a cat back, lid , 150 nx kit went 11.18 on nitto's, with 342 gears.

I bet your times are great spraying with 456's. All I'm saying is it is way too much gear for the bottle, on the bottle there is no need to spin a stock bottom in to 7000rpm. Your living on borrowed time!

Mar 7, 2003 | 01:53 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ANIL8U:
 Yeah, that’s why my 2000 Z mn6 with a cat back, lid , 150 nx kit went 11.18 on nitto's, with 342 gears.

I bet your times are great spraying with 456's. All I'm saying is it is way too much gear for the bottle, on the bottle there is no need to spin a stock bottom in to 7000rpm. Your living on borrowed time! <hr /></blockquote>PLENTY of guys reving and spraying into the 7000 rpm range on a stock bottom end for longer than I have AND I never meant my reply as a personal attack...so simmer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Mar 7, 2003 | 02:11 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

Is there a reason why I can't shift a 6000? I am going to set the shift light at 6000 by the time I react it will probally be 6300-6600. Might even try short shifting it even more, don't see a need to spin all those rpm's on the bottle. The tourque curve doesn't really rise or fall after 5500 rpm's. Already know I will be in fifth through the traps so I don't think shift points really matter that much (at least not like they do NA). I'll have to check into this tire growing thing, thanks for the heads up.

Mar 7, 2003 | 02:40 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

i wouldnt shift the car at the end of hte TQ peak. i know that car peaks RWHP at around 6400-6500 rpms. i have seen it on the dyno. also i would talk to TIM about the tire rubbing, i doubt he would run 11.30s on motor with a rubbing tire at all. also you certainly dont have to shift at 7000 rpms on the bottle. that car made HUGE TQ on the bottle though! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> here is a pic of him lifting on motor! lol

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Mar 7, 2003 | 02:59 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

Sweet pic gator <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Mar 7, 2003 | 05:10 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

That is a good pic! Where was that taken, KCIR or that other track near branson, MO

Mar 7, 2003 | 08:24 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

i BELIEVE Mid-America Raceway in Wentzville, MO. great wheels up pic isnt it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Mark Schomaker knows better, Tim sent it to him.

Mar 8, 2003 | 02:21 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

sorry about that post everyone, I was listening to gator <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> . no I don't proclaim to know everything about LS1s and what to do to them, but I don't ask questions to someone that does not know what they are talking about. there are some people on here that I do and do not agree with. I guess it's just an experement, don't know if I want to take that chance. The guy that has this setup in Tx, I'll be e-mailing u askin questions. I'm not worried about the clutch.....that POS has been replaced with a badass setup, thanks Futral Motorsports. maybe I need to get my car out of body/paint work first.... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> . I wasn't trying to argue with anyone, everyone is cool on here. sorry if u took it wrong.

Mar 8, 2003 | 02:51 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

I run 3.73 with my set-up and love it. I don`t know what my trap speeds will be until Sunday night when I run her at HRP. One things for sure, my Bird is Pretty Fast <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

Mar 8, 2003 | 05:36 PM

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Re: Sprayin with a 4.56

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BADZ:
 What about with a th350 & 410's, 28" tire??????????

<hr /></blockquote>It kind of depends on convertor slippage, and I am aware that you have a new setup being finished but unfortunatly know very little about it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> all I know is that it will be a bad *** car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> assuming you cross the traps around lets say 7000 you should mph anywhere from 130~133 once again this can vary with different convertors.

If you get a chance shoot me an email and let me know a little about your new setup <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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