Max effort N2O 347ci heads questions
07-21-2017, 02:11 PM
#22
Hi Ice, FIRST, MY wife DOES NOT ALLOW me to SPIT. (blk00ss)
THE BAD TECH reported by blk00ss (.024" SPG) : A small Spark Plug GAP wastes the coil energy
MY tests allow for Arc Duration measurement using my CO-2 Pressure Chamber AND a Scope.
GM Specification for SPG is .045" to .050" with some at .060".
This is because the Arc Duration is correct (thirty degrees of crankshaft rotation) for the coil fitted AND best overall engine performance.
WHEN the SPG is CLOSED that Arc Duration becomes much greater, sixty to seventy degrees.
This is a waste of the energy, electrons, used to heat the fuel/air/NOS that allows ignition inside the cylinder.
THUS the 10 AMP GM OEM coil family with the small SPG would act like a FOUR AMP coil. (energy release within time required)
There is NO REASON to close the SPG when the coil fitted can spark in the cooler NOS filled cylinder.
I ONLY ask you "ICE" to Googly "IGN-1A" coils for world wide provided information.
Lance, BTW I was a team member of modern DIS in 1984. (US Patent)
THE BAD TECH reported by blk00ss (.024" SPG) : A small Spark Plug GAP wastes the coil energy
MY tests allow for Arc Duration measurement using my CO-2 Pressure Chamber AND a Scope.
GM Specification for SPG is .045" to .050" with some at .060".
This is because the Arc Duration is correct (thirty degrees of crankshaft rotation) for the coil fitted AND best overall engine performance.
WHEN the SPG is CLOSED that Arc Duration becomes much greater, sixty to seventy degrees.
This is a waste of the energy, electrons, used to heat the fuel/air/NOS that allows ignition inside the cylinder.
THUS the 10 AMP GM OEM coil family with the small SPG would act like a FOUR AMP coil. (energy release within time required)
There is NO REASON to close the SPG when the coil fitted can spark in the cooler NOS filled cylinder.
I ONLY ask you "ICE" to Googly "IGN-1A" coils for world wide provided information.
Lance, BTW I was a team member of modern DIS in 1984. (US Patent)
For ***** and giggles, tell us what plug you would recommend.
07-21-2017, 07:47 PM
#25
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So does anyone else know or have any experience running stock coils with a big shot of n2o?
I have decided aftermarket coils are out of the question ... if the stock ones arent up to the task then ill go with the dizzy setup
I have decided aftermarket coils are out of the question ... if the stock ones arent up to the task then ill go with the dizzy setup
07-22-2017, 11:18 AM
#26
tl;dr.. if you aren't concerned about passing emissions and aren't trying to squeeze every last MPG out of the car, just run the stock coils, close the plug gap a bit and let it eat
07-26-2017, 03:45 PM
#30
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes
on
16 Posts
Engine Cylinger Ignition = Comet Tail Hi MANY, those who believe in Jakes description of the combustion INSIDE the engine cylinder. (INCORRECT Discription)
Example : Union 76 R&D center, Yorba Linda, High Speed IN CYLINDER photographed, "combustion in motion". (1992-1994)
Witnesses : Barry Duffin, Lance Nist, Tim Woose.
What was found : The combustion Kernel began at the Spark Plug then it revolved creating a Comets Tail view.
This is the MAIN REASON the Arc Duration is IMPORTANT.
This is ALSO related to the OP with respect to head design AND Swirl.
Lance
Example : Union 76 R&D center, Yorba Linda, High Speed IN CYLINDER photographed, "combustion in motion". (1992-1994)
Witnesses : Barry Duffin, Lance Nist, Tim Woose.
What was found : The combustion Kernel began at the Spark Plug then it revolved creating a Comets Tail view.
This is the MAIN REASON the Arc Duration is IMPORTANT.
This is ALSO related to the OP with respect to head design AND Swirl.
Lance
07-26-2017, 04:13 PM
#31
Hi MANY, those who believe in Jakes description of the combustion INSIDE the engine cylinder. (INCORRECT Discription)
Example : Union 76 R&D center, Yorba Linda, High Speed IN CYLINDER photographed, "combustion in motion". (1992-1994)
Witnesses : Barry Duffin, Lance Nist, Tim Woose.
What was found : The combustion Kernel began at the Spark Plug then it revolved creating a Comets Tail view.
This is the MAIN REASON the Arc Duration is IMPORTANT.
This is ALSO related to the OP with respect to head design AND Swirl.
Lance
Example : Union 76 R&D center, Yorba Linda, High Speed IN CYLINDER photographed, "combustion in motion". (1992-1994)
Witnesses : Barry Duffin, Lance Nist, Tim Woose.
What was found : The combustion Kernel began at the Spark Plug then it revolved creating a Comets Tail view.
This is the MAIN REASON the Arc Duration is IMPORTANT.
This is ALSO related to the OP with respect to head design AND Swirl.
Lance
07-26-2017, 05:23 PM
#35
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes
on
16 Posts
Arc Duration = 30* crankshaft rotation Hi JAKE, yes what IS stated in your book report is TRUE the same "tech" as I state.
That report STATES that a longer Arc Duration GREATER than 30* of crankshaft rotation has NO EFFECT. (correct)
That report STATES once the Arc is established there is no need for the great initial energy. (correct)
NOW you state that I am correct with the Comet Tail combustion picture, thus a beginning and an end of the tail.
That PROVES an ARC Duration of some length is required.
NOW for the Circa of this book ?
We, Woodward, have engines running WAY over the "LEAN" limit as described in THIS book as IMPOSSIBLY.
This is using a Pre-Chamber Spark Plug AND the IGN-1A coil. (US Patent 2009)
I was speaking to Mike Thermos about SPG and NOS, he agreed with my findings.
He reported this SAME method with a 12.5 AFR was a measurement of UNDER 1000F EGT's at WOT with a "heavy" NOS
Lance
That report STATES that a longer Arc Duration GREATER than 30* of crankshaft rotation has NO EFFECT. (correct)
That report STATES once the Arc is established there is no need for the great initial energy. (correct)
NOW you state that I am correct with the Comet Tail combustion picture, thus a beginning and an end of the tail.
That PROVES an ARC Duration of some length is required.
NOW for the Circa of this book ?
We, Woodward, have engines running WAY over the "LEAN" limit as described in THIS book as IMPOSSIBLY.
This is using a Pre-Chamber Spark Plug AND the IGN-1A coil. (US Patent 2009)
I was speaking to Mike Thermos about SPG and NOS, he agreed with my findings.
He reported this SAME method with a 12.5 AFR was a measurement of UNDER 1000F EGT's at WOT with a "heavy" NOS
Lance
07-26-2017, 05:47 PM
#36
Hi JAKE, yes what IS stated in your book report is TRUE the same "tech" as I state.
That report STATES that a longer Arc Duration GREATER than 30* of crankshaft rotation has NO EFFECT. (correct)
That report STATES once the Arc is established there is no need for the great initial energy. (correct)
NOW you state that I am correct with the Comet Tail combustion picture, thus a beginning and an end of the tail.
That PROVES an ARC Duration of some length is required.
NOW for the Circa of this book ?
We, Woodward, have engines running WAY over the "LEAN" limit as described in THIS book as IMPOSSIBLY.
This is using a Pre-Chamber Spark Plug AND the IGN-1A coil. (US Patent 2009)
I was speaking to Mike Thermos about SPG and NOS, he agreed with my findings.
He reported this SAME method with a 12.5 AFR was a measurement of UNDER 1000F EGT's at WOT with a "heavy" NOS
Lance
That report STATES that a longer Arc Duration GREATER than 30* of crankshaft rotation has NO EFFECT. (correct)
That report STATES once the Arc is established there is no need for the great initial energy. (correct)
NOW you state that I am correct with the Comet Tail combustion picture, thus a beginning and an end of the tail.
That PROVES an ARC Duration of some length is required.
NOW for the Circa of this book ?
We, Woodward, have engines running WAY over the "LEAN" limit as described in THIS book as IMPOSSIBLY.
This is using a Pre-Chamber Spark Plug AND the IGN-1A coil. (US Patent 2009)
I was speaking to Mike Thermos about SPG and NOS, he agreed with my findings.
He reported this SAME method with a 12.5 AFR was a measurement of UNDER 1000F EGT's at WOT with a "heavy" NOS
Lance
07-26-2017, 07:56 PM
#37
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes
on
16 Posts
CIRCA of BOOK Hi Jake, IT IS NOW KNOW BY YOU (AND OTHERS) as to WHEN your DATA was published ? (NO)
THUS BE HONEST, THE DATE ?
BTW WHAT DOES WHAT DOES "LOL" OR "BULLSHIT" MEAN ?
THUS YOU HAVE RESPECT from the Modders/ADDMEN HERE at LS-1 TECH ?
AS TO MY respect for LS-1 TECH (NO), the WORD Chevelle IS NOT OBSERVED Correctly ? ( SORRY ALL BUT TRUE)
LEARN TO READ THE BOOK YOU STATE ?
Lance
THUS BE HONEST, THE DATE ?
BTW WHAT DOES WHAT DOES "LOL" OR "BULLSHIT" MEAN ?
THUS YOU HAVE RESPECT from the Modders/ADDMEN HERE at LS-1 TECH ?
AS TO MY respect for LS-1 TECH (NO), the WORD Chevelle IS NOT OBSERVED Correctly ? ( SORRY ALL BUT TRUE)
LEARN TO READ THE BOOK YOU STATE ?
Lance
07-26-2017, 08:08 PM
#38
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes
on
16 Posts
Heywood book 1988 ? Hi JAKE, YES GOOD, A 1988 BOOK, YES I KNOW GOOGLE !
MY CONCERN IS THAT some Knowledge MAY HAVE been OBSERVED within THAT time Period.
THUS MY PATENTS are un-observed ?
GET A LIFE !
Lance
MY CONCERN IS THAT some Knowledge MAY HAVE been OBSERVED within THAT time Period.
THUS MY PATENTS are un-observed ?
GET A LIFE !
Lance
07-26-2017, 08:08 PM
#39
Hi Jake, IT IS NOW KNOW BY YOU (AND OTHERS) as to WHEN your DATA was published ? (NO)
THUS BE HONEST, THE DATE ?
BTW WHAT DOES WHAT DOES "LOL" OR "BULLSHIT" MEAN ?
THUS YOU HAVE RESPECT from the Modders/ADDMEN HERE at LS-1 TECH ?
AS TO MY respect for LS-1 TECH (NO), the WORD Chevelle IS NOT OBSERVED Correctly ? ( SORRY ALL BUT TRUE)
LEARN TO READ THE BOOK YOU STATE ?
Lance
THUS BE HONEST, THE DATE ?
BTW WHAT DOES WHAT DOES "LOL" OR "BULLSHIT" MEAN ?
THUS YOU HAVE RESPECT from the Modders/ADDMEN HERE at LS-1 TECH ?
AS TO MY respect for LS-1 TECH (NO), the WORD Chevelle IS NOT OBSERVED Correctly ? ( SORRY ALL BUT TRUE)
LEARN TO READ THE BOOK YOU STATE ?
Lance
Written by John Heywood in 1988, MIT professor of mechanical engineering and modern ICE godfather.
I don't understand the rest of what you're trying to say.
07-26-2017, 09:03 PM
#40
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes
on
16 Posts
(sure in 1988) Hi Jake, you suggest NO advancement in THIRTY YEARS !
THEN YOUR book states TRUE ? (sure in the Dark Ages)
Rare Earth Magnet "fitted" coils DID NOT EXIST at that time!
THUS YOU "SPIT" on ME ?
YES I sell COILS to the MOST ADVANCED shops ON THIS PLANET !
YOU DO NOT HAVE the best interest for LS-1 tech members.
Lance
THEN YOUR book states TRUE ? (sure in the Dark Ages)
Rare Earth Magnet "fitted" coils DID NOT EXIST at that time!
THUS YOU "SPIT" on ME ?
YES I sell COILS to the MOST ADVANCED shops ON THIS PLANET !
YOU DO NOT HAVE the best interest for LS-1 tech members.
Lance