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Old 07-11-2018, 07:40 AM
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If you don't care about peak n/a performance, and only run say a 75 shot, you could simply reduce the timing by maybe 2 degrees, and then just run that all the time. Not what I would want, but it's an option
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Oh I mean if you just take out the timing in the tune, does it really effect anything if you are not WOT on the street? Instead of switching back and forth between a nitrous tune and a street tune, can you just leave it at the nitrous tune? I dont care if I make 95% power on the street instead of 100% if that makes sense.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:39 AM
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As long as your only pulling timing in the full throttle regions of the tune there will be no change in normal driving. Even at that 3-4 degrees pulled on your motor tune is prob only 15hp tops. A decent controller will act as your wot switch, window switch, progressive and maybe even a couple other things so I wouldn't skimp out there.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tug686spd View Post
As long as your only pulling timing in the full throttle regions of the tune there will be no change in normal driving. Even at that 3-4 degrees pulled on your motor tune is prob only 15hp tops. A decent controller will act as your wot switch, window switch, progressive and maybe even a couple other things so I wouldn't skimp out there.
Ah I didnt know it was all in one unit. What would you recommend, or is that the lnc-2000?

Yea thats what I figured, if I lose 15hp I dont care. Maybe once I get 3.42's installed ill care
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS View Post
If you don't care about peak n/a performance, and only run say a 75 shot, you could simply reduce the timing by maybe 2 degrees, and then just run that all the time. Not what I would want, but it's an option
Eh it wont really effect me. I dont drive like that anymore on the street.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:59 AM
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The LMC2000 is strictly for pulling timing. The nos mini is a 2 stage progressive controller with built in wide open throttle switch and window switch. It is also one of the cheapest out there price wise with good reviews from just about every user. If you were in Pa I'd hook you up with one for a good deal.
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Is progressive needed on a setup like this?

Timing is the main thing im worried about but if a tune can deal with that Im good.

My thoughts were to spray in 2nd and 3rd and not really worry about 1st. Just some more info, the car does have bolt ons...I ran it last friday and it hasnt moved since, thats why Im not to worried about losing 15hp on the street. I think this nitrous kit, then some LCA and LCA relocation brackets or find a 3.42 rear end to make the car not drive like crap on the street. Thats where Id like to end up.

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Old 07-11-2018, 11:55 AM
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Get the progressive, the mini is $75 more than most non progressive controllers. The 75-100 jets won't be in there long. The 342 rear would feel a little better driving around, I also like the 6 cylinder trailblazer stall for the price. Auto zone had the best price last time I looked.
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Yea I have the 6 cyl trailblazer "gm55" converter installed. I dont plan to go over 75-100 honestly. I just want a 12.0-12.5 pass on street tires, if I want more I think traction is where I need to focus next. I want the 3.42 because I can find a whole used rear end, I hate other people working on my car and its something I can do myself.

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So a 100 shot may be more then I thought. Read an old post about a guy running a 100 nano shot and going 11.04's at 123 with LT's/exhaust, a 3000 converter and 3.23 gears. Befor the nano he went 11.4 @ 119, still very low 60' times though, not street tire 60's. I may be fine with a 75 shot to accomplish what I want.
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Based on what you're saying I'd just pull 2-3 degrees from your n/a tune for a 75 shot and call it a day. No need for a progressive, timing box, or any of that. Nice simple and cheap, and fits in line with what you want
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I would go ahead and get the lnc2000. No chance of you staying at a 75 shot. You will get hooked and be at 150 worth in no time, just like myself and everyone else lol
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Your NA tune is not effected. Only when you arm the switch does the timing get pulled where you specify.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS View Post
Based on what you're saying I'd just pull 2-3 degrees from your n/a tune for a 75 shot and call it a day. No need for a progressive, timing box, or any of that. Nice simple and cheap, and fits in line with what you want
yea, so would it go full on fast and furious style and choose when it hits? I'm thinking 1st would only be good if I had et streets and will it spray through shifts? With 2.73s I'm wot pretty quick, not sure if rpm would be high enough?

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Your NA tune is not effected. Only when you arm the switch does the timing get pulled where you specify.
you mean if I use the traction control method?
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Originally Posted by trilkb View Post
yea, so would it go full on fast and furious style and choose when it hits? I'm thinking 1st would only be good if I had et streets and will it spray through shifts? With 2.73s I'm wot pretty quick, not sure if rpm would be high enough?



you mean if I use the traction control method?
For any method really, even the LNC2000 doesn't activate and pull timing until you throw the N2O arm switch. See my diagram here:

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Originally Posted by trilkb View Post
yea, so would it go full on fast and furious style and choose when it hits? I'm thinking 1st would only be good if I had et streets and will it spray through shifts? With 2.73s I'm wot pretty quick, not sure if rpm would be high enough?



you mean if I use the traction control method?
With that small of a shot there's really no worry spraying through the shift. You could buy a window switch and do it that way, or simply manually engage it say above 3000 or so rpm. If it spins through 1st just don't spray till 2nd then. Since you don't mind sacrificing some n/a power to run nitrous (2-3 degrees won't be but maybe 10-15 hp) then this is by far the cheapest way to go. But if you ever plan on going beyond a 75 shot I would do it the right way and have separate tunes for n/a and nitrous
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Well, The Dynotune kit is on its way. Im beside myself that I actually have a nitrous kit on the way lol.

So the only other thing is tuning. I thought a friend could do that since its been tuned once befor but apparently he still needs credits to open it up with his license.

So I need bkr7e plugs and a tune figured out, and possibly look into a window switch of some point.

Im slightly Familiar with how nitrous tanks work, I used to deliver 56lb tanks to dentists/Maxillofacial places. Do I absolutely need a bottle heater? I liked reading about the high psi nano setups and how they dont lose psi through a run. Does it take long for psi to build back up after a run without a heater?
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No, you don't have to have a heater. But on cooler day's it will sure help. Since your only going to run a 75 shot and spraying only in 2nd and 3rd I would doubt your pressure will drop much at all over a 1/4 mile run. You could probably hot lap the car twice or even 3 times and be just fine if your bottle is full to begin with.
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Ok, Yea Ill have to see how it goes. I figure I may end up at a 100shot, with better tires (ET streets probably), spraying in 1st, where a window switch/controller would be needed, but all of that can be added at some time down the road. Ill just have to see how I like it the first time out. The window switch/progressive controller does sound nice.

So I have to manually do something inside the car if I want it to spray in 2nd and 3rd if I have no window switch or progressive controller right? If Im WOT befor 2nd gear then the WOT switch will tell it to spray right? So then id have to physically do something if I only want to spray 2nd and 3rd.
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The nitrous will only spray if it's armed. Doesn't matter what gear you're in. So you just simply arm it when you want it, so when you floor it, it sprays the nitrous.
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