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Old 12-09-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default TIMESLIP from Jan 06 GMHighTechPerform LS1 v LS2 Shootout

Rick Jensen emailed me the time slip...a couple of threads asked what was up with the shootout times...I marked the Cars, React Time and 60 Foot
Result was:
GTO 12.52 @ 114.08
WS6 12.85 @ 117.04

WS6 got beat off the line! Just FYI - get the magazine for the whole story!!
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:55 AM
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sweet...114 mph is moving. That WS6 needs some driving lessons
2.3 sixty foot

Whats the setup on your car?
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The mag dosen't say hardly anything about how the cars ran besides the et and top speed, and even that they post 2 different sets of numbers.

Macon, thankls for getting that, that shows the Fbody would smoke the GTO if the driver actually launched the Fbody, instead of a pathetic 2.3 60'.
So essentially take 6 tenths off the TA's time if you want a fair comparison.
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Originally Posted by 860 Performance
The mag dosen't say hardly anything about how the cars ran besides the et and top speed, and even that they post 2 different sets of numbers.

Macon, thankls for getting that, that shows the Fbody would smoke the GTO if the driver actually launched the Fbody, instead of a pathetic 2.3 60'.
So essentially take 6 tenths off the TA's time if you want a fair comparison.
I figured you guys could make heads or tails. I hope in the future they might publish these slips in the articles. As we see, there is more to the proverbial story than they published...still a great issue!!
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Vinny, did you mean .06 or .6. I don't see that T/A doing a 1.7 60' on nitrous and radials even with a good driver, maybe .06 better. Either way our system still won, woohoo! Just kidding, seeing that they were 3-4 tenths apart the whole way, it would have been a very good race if the T/A had a better 60'.
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Well looks to me like the ws6 is the faster car if the 60ft would have been the same. He should have been able to get atleast a 2.1 .Good story but they do need to be alittle more detailed on the story.
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Even if the 60ft was same The gto still win the reaction times need a little help. lol
There is a larger split at the finish line then at the 60ft time.. Some one might need to check my math on this.. .287 difference at 60ft and .335 at the end. wonder if the clutch went by by...
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Jeremy,
No I do mean .6sec. What ever you gain in the 60' almost always exactly doubles off your 1/4mi time. (there are exception of course) but its usually dead on.
So if the TA droped from a 2.3 to a 2.0 60', then he should drop .6 sec off his 1/4 time.
Flip throuh some old time slips, you see it almost always works.
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Vinny, did you mean .06 or .6. I don't see that T/A doing a 1.7 60' on nitrous and radials even with a good driver, maybe .06 better. Either way our system still won, woohoo! Just kidding, seeing that they were 3-4 tenths apart the whole way, it would have been a very good race if the T/A had a better 60'.
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Interesting, I was wondering exactly what they ran. But didn't they run 125 on WS6 and 100 on the GTO? Also did they run them before nitrous as well?
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wow...the things they leave out in articles - i agree on the ~.6 thing
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Glad we got to see the slip. From the published ET and Trap speed It'd have to be just a bad launch. Especially since this pass was made on a fresh clutch.
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Vinny - My bad, for some reason I was thinking that you were referring to taking .6 off of the 60'. I'm on the same page with ya' now.
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I would guess that they did the 100 on gto and 125 on ws6 was to even out the two cars in power sence the gto make so much more stock.

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Interesting, I was wondering exactly what they ran. But didn't they run 125 on WS6 and 100 on the GTO? Also did they run them before nitrous as well?
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I agree, with a better 60', take .4-.6 off the WS6s time.
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Did anyone else notice a huge wiring mistake on the TA?
They wired the ground side of the 4 solenoids directly to the window switch
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Originally Posted by ws6sojuiced01
I would guess that they did the 100 on gto and 125 on ws6 was to even out the two cars in power sence the gto make so much more stock.
Just thought I would through this out there for some added info. Here's the N/A hp and tq of the GTO and the T/A compared to their nitrous numbers

T/A
N/A N2O Gain
322.5hp 425.5hp 103hp
336.0tq 478.1tq 142tq

GTO
N/A N2O Gain
338hp 447hp 109hp
340tq 497tq 157tq

I was surprised at what the GTO made stock compared to the slightly modded T/A.

Does anyone happen to know the weight of each vehicle at the time of the race?
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Originally Posted by ws6sojuiced01
I would guess that they did the 100 on gto and 125 on ws6 was to even out the two cars in power sence the gto make so much more stock.
From the Magazine
2001 LS1
346 ci
125 Shot
425 rwhp
478 rwtq

NA Run 106.03

2005 LS2
364 ci
100shot
447 rwhp
497 rwtq

NA Run 106.38
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Sounds about right, I put down 341whp stock. I'm thinking I need to purchase a little juice now.
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Looks to me like the shot on the GTO was rated at the wheels and the shot on the 'Bird was rated at the flywheel from the manufacturers. All you had to do was look at the mph in the article to see which car was stronger in the quarter.
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Im with you on this



Originally Posted by VIPRETR2
Looks to me like the shot on the GTO was rated at the wheels and the shot on the 'Bird was rated at the flywheel from the manufacturers. All you had to do was look at the mph in the article to see which car was stronger in the quarter.



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