The H/C decision is made!! Finally...
03-15-2005, 02:29 PM
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The H/C decision is made!! Finally... TEA 5.3 heads and Futral F13 cam.
Now the question is if
Ellis will want to install them along with the QTP headers, catte Y-pipe and UD pulley....
EEEEEELIIIISSSS where are ya!!!!?????
Now the question is if
Ellis will want to install them along with the QTP headers, catte Y-pipe and UD pulley....EEEEEELIIIISSSS where are ya!!!!?????
03-15-2005, 03:33 PM
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I haven't gotten it yet, but I am leaning towards 112 +4 -- it al depends on if it works ok with the 5.3s -- I'm still waiting for an email from TEA about this, but that's the combo for sure.
03-15-2005, 04:07 PM
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Are those similar to these? I am looking at them for possible puttin on my baby........
AAP Stage II 5.3L heads, milled .030 for 11.1:1 compression on stock 346cid
fresh Erson single valve springs (less than 5k miles)
(springs were fine for 222/224 .571"/.571" 114LSA cam)
2.02/1.60 Manley valves
Comp titanium retainers
GM locks and seals
Don Lee Auto went over them about 6 months ago.
With the cam above these heads made 410rwhp/415rwtq through an LS1 intake and cats, with an unlocked Y3000 and 3.73's. Dyno on my website.
Any opinions/suggestions? Still has the factory cam "for now"
AAP Stage II 5.3L heads, milled .030 for 11.1:1 compression on stock 346cid
fresh Erson single valve springs (less than 5k miles)
(springs were fine for 222/224 .571"/.571" 114LSA cam)
2.02/1.60 Manley valves
Comp titanium retainers
GM locks and seals
Don Lee Auto went over them about 6 months ago.
With the cam above these heads made 410rwhp/415rwtq through an LS1 intake and cats, with an unlocked Y3000 and 3.73's. Dyno on my website.
Any opinions/suggestions? Still has the factory cam "for now"
03-15-2005, 04:18 PM
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According to TEA no clearance issues at all. My understanding is that TEA starts with the 5.3 because it is cast with a smaller combustion chamber (61cc) than the LS6 or LQ9 heads, so they can machine the chambers without making them too big.
The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
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03-15-2005, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6freak
The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
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F13 = 230"/230" .595"/.595" 114LSA
03-15-2005, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6freak
According to TEA no clearance issues at all. My understanding is that TEA starts with the 5.3 because it is cast with a smaller combustion chamber (61cc) than the LS6 or LQ9 heads, so they can machine the chambers without making them too big.
The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
Sounds awesome! 450 rwhp, nice.
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03-15-2005, 07:18 PM
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Cool.
I just ordered some TEA Stage 3 LQ9 (6.0L) heads from Brent for the 388.
With all the companies having one issue or another with heads, it came down to some AFR 225s or TEA heads. Few others have the spotless reputation I need.
Im sure you will be very happy with the results. The TEA stage 1.5 make some crazy flow for such low a price. The stage 2s dont seem to flow any more :-/
I just ordered some TEA Stage 3 LQ9 (6.0L) heads from Brent for the 388.
With all the companies having one issue or another with heads, it came down to some AFR 225s or TEA heads. Few others have the spotless reputation I need.
Im sure you will be very happy with the results. The TEA stage 1.5 make some crazy flow for such low a price. The stage 2s dont seem to flow any more :-/
03-15-2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6freak
TEA 5.3 heads and Futral F13 cam.
Now the question is if Ellis will want to install them along with the QTP headers, catte Y-pipe and UD pulley....
EEEEEELIIIISSSS where are ya!!!!?????
Now the question is if
Ellis will want to install them along with the QTP headers, catte Y-pipe and UD pulley....EEEEEELIIIISSSS where are ya!!!!?????
That should turn out alot like my combo. althouth my valves are bigger on the intake, and the chamber is smalller, are they hand finsihed or just cnc'd? I think i would have gone with mybee something with a little less lift for the street, give you more on the bottom end, but that should make great power up in the revs. What kind of gears you running out back?
I will still be checking Piston to valve clearance. No need to play the MTI game Boyce did and take a chance!
03-15-2005, 11:29 PM
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Look at these flow numbers at several lifts - these heads FLOW.
LS1 5.3 Stage 1.5
Lift---------Intake--------Exhaust
.100---------71.1----------56.4
.200--------141.4----------117.9
.300---------203.5---------170.2
.400---------248.6---------233.7
.500---------282.9---------260.5
.550---------295.9---------265.9
.600---------305.7---------269.5
The Futral F13 cams should fit like a glove (not sure about duration)
F13 = 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA
or
F13 = 230"/230" .595"/.595" 114LSA
Add to this QTPs, ASP pulley, GMMG, Volant CAI and Shaner S3
....a tune.....
and start saving for a stock pile of new tires.
LS1 5.3 Stage 1.5
Lift---------Intake--------Exhaust
.100---------71.1----------56.4
.200--------141.4----------117.9
.300---------203.5---------170.2
.400---------248.6---------233.7
.500---------282.9---------260.5
.550---------295.9---------265.9
.600---------305.7---------269.5
The Futral F13 cams should fit like a glove (not sure about duration)
F13 = 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA
or
F13 = 230"/230" .595"/.595" 114LSA
Add to this QTPs, ASP pulley, GMMG, Volant CAI and Shaner S3
....a tune.....
and start saving for a stock pile of new tires.
03-16-2005, 09:18 AM
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Those flow pretty goodl. Just to put it in pespective my heads flow bout 25-30cfm more all the way 650 lift. Why don't you get a set of ls6 heads, and then just have the weld the chambers to whatever sive you want. The ls6 heads will way ouflow and perform the 5.3's. IMO
03-16-2005, 09:50 AM
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Those flow pretty goodl. Just to put it in pespective my heads flow bout 25-30cfm more all the way 650 lift. Why don't you get a set of ls6 heads, and then just have the weld the chambers to whatever sive you want. The ls6 heads will way ouflow and perform the 5.3's. IMO
I got lucky with mine because I need a 70cc chamber. LQ9s are LS6 heads with a big chamber and a tiny price. I would not have bought mine if they were only LS6s. Im a po' white chil'.
03-16-2005, 09:53 AM
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for S's and G's, here's the stage 3 6.0 flow numbers. On a 4.125" bore, they are about 15-20 higher.
6.0L Stage 3
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 70.6 50.4
0.200 143.1 118.2
0.300 210.9 186.7
0.400 261.1 230.7
0.500 302.9 260.1
0.550 319.0 269.4
0.600 334.0 277.1
0.700 342.9 282.2
6.0L Stage 3
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 70.6 50.4
0.200 143.1 118.2
0.300 210.9 186.7
0.400 261.1 230.7
0.500 302.9 260.1
0.550 319.0 269.4
0.600 334.0 277.1
0.700 342.9 282.2
03-16-2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Visceral
for S's and G's, here's the stage 3 6.0 flow numbers. On a 4.125" bore, they are about 15-20 higher.
6.0L Stage 3
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 70.6 50.4
0.200 143.1 118.2
0.300 210.9 186.7
0.400 261.1 230.7
0.500 302.9 260.1
0.550 319.0 269.4
0.600 334.0 277.1
0.700 342.9 282.2
6.0L Stage 3
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 70.6 50.4
0.200 143.1 118.2
0.300 210.9 186.7
0.400 261.1 230.7
0.500 302.9 260.1
0.550 319.0 269.4
0.600 334.0 277.1
0.700 342.9 282.2
Good thing they flow to .700 cause evryone runs cams that big.
Those are nice flow numbers, but i got a little higher than that, and my heads probely cost less than half of what you will pay for those!
03-16-2005, 12:21 PM
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Good thing they flow to .700 cause evryone runs cams that big.
Those are nice flow numbers, but i got a little higher than that, and my heads probely cost less than half of what you will pay for those!
Those are nice flow numbers, but i got a little higher than that, and my heads probely cost less than half of what you will pay for those!
Brent at TEA is feeling generous these days. He has AFRs to compete with.
Mine came out significantly cheaper than un-ported AFR 225s... which was the competition.
