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burbman 07-06-2005 02:54 PM

GTO track day
 
Yesterday I got to go experience the one day high performance driving school at Pacific Raceways. I have to say that the experience was well worth the cost in both time and dollars. I had a blast, and at one point I was headed down the front straight in the middle of three ZO6's. My instructor looked around and said "smile, right now you are in a rolling advertisement for GM high performance" Two of them were at the track for afternoon lapping, so they soon left me behind, but the third I was able to stay with and eventually pull away from. I have to say that I would love to go back, but there are a few things I need before I do that. The Goat runs wonderfully for about two laps, then the brakes begin to fade in the heavy braking zones, making things a little interesting. Also the stock tires didn't fare too well with chunks of rubber now missing from the outer edge of the right front tire.

All in all, I would have to give the experience three thumbs up!

Rottluver 07-06-2005 03:21 PM

:drool:

Sounds like you had a great time.........sux about the tires but it is just money. ;)

Someday I will go there.......... :bang:

Crisisman 07-06-2005 03:29 PM

That's good to know about the brakes. I will be there on the 1st.

I'm curious, did you feel the goat has oversteer or understeer?

WAHUSKER 07-06-2005 03:40 PM

Brakes huh? Interesting. The TA should be fine, but my GTO....sounds like you had a blast! Jealous as Hell. :drive:

burbman 07-06-2005 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Crisisman
That's good to know about the brakes. I will be there on the 1st.

I'm curious, did you feel the goat has oversteer or understeer?

They had me leave the traction control on, so for the most part it stayed pretty neutral. When I got into corners a little hot it would understeer, and if I gave it a little too much coming out it would kick the rear out a bit, but overall nothing unmanageable.

Crisisman 07-06-2005 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by burbman
They had me leave the traction control on, so for the most part it stayed pretty neutral. When I got into corners a little hot it would understeer, and if I gave it a little too much coming out it would kick the rear out a bit, but overall nothing unmanageable.

That's good to know. So, with 275s on the rear I can probably get away with an SLP swaybar w/o upsetting the balance too much. :)

Tranzor 07-06-2005 04:29 PM

Sweet... glad you had a great time! I'm looking forward to going as well... August 2nd is when my Big Red Boat gets to go oversteer its way around the track. :lol:

yekta 07-07-2005 03:58 AM

Stock brakes are definately not for tracks man! DRILLED/SLOTTED rotorz ;)

narcszm 07-07-2005 05:23 PM

Was that you in the blue goat? I showed up really really late.

narcszm 07-07-2005 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by yekta
Stock brakes are definately not for tracks man! DRILLED/SLOTTED rotorz ;)

You'll want to avoid most drilled rotors for the track. Even the eradispeeds crack from most high temp pads. Get a good set of clean-face rotors for the track.

burbman 07-07-2005 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by narcszm
Was that you in the blue goat? I showed up really really late.

That was me. Were you in the class or the afternoon lapping group?

narcszm 07-07-2005 05:49 PM

I showed up to do about an hour of lapping.

burbman 07-07-2005 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by narcszm
You'll want to avoid most drilled rotors for the track. Even the eradispeeds crack from most high temp pads. Get a good set of clean-face rotors for the track.

Yeah, they suggested that I maybe go with some "track pads" and just switch them out if I plan to go lapping. The ones that are on there now do pretty well, considering I am not at threshold braking every 30 seconds on the street. If that doesn't work, I can upgrade to a big brake kit of some kind as I have larger wheels already on there way to me.

Tylerb59 07-07-2005 05:57 PM

Awesome.

Never heard a bad thing about these classes, hopefully I get my butt out there and take some corners. I guess the biggest reason being lack of tires and proper brakes.

burbman 07-07-2005 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by narcszm
I showed up to do about an hour of lapping.

So you were the silver Z that was lapping. There was another silver Z in my group, so I couldn't keep the two of you straight while on the track, but viewing from the grandstand between runs you looked good from what I could see.

narcszm 07-07-2005 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by burbman
Yeah, they suggested that I maybe go with some "track pads" and just switch them out if I plan to go lapping.

If you do that, make sure the different pads are wearing similarly on the rotor. Better yet, don't do that. Since rotors are less than $50 apiece, you'll want to match rotors to pads. Otherwise, you'll hot-spot, glaze, and crack your rotors very quickly when using your track pads.

Get a second set of pads and rotors for the track and you'll see a huge difference. Street pads suck.

burbman 07-07-2005 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Tylerb59
Awesome.

Never heard a bad thing about these classes, hopefully I get my butt out there and take some corners. I guess the biggest reason being lack of tires and proper brakes.

If you want to get out there, I would say to do it soon (like this year) Don was talking about a bad crash that happened down in Cali at a track that will have the insurance companies thinking twice about covering schools like his. At the very best, prices will probably have to go way up just to cover increased premiums.

Tranzor 07-07-2005 06:10 PM

If I end up liking the school when I go, and want to do more lapping, I will definitely invest in a dedicated set of track brakes/rotors. Right now, I just wanna see how much I enjoy it compared to drag racing. :)

Racehead 07-07-2005 06:24 PM

Jason, your gonna love open tracking. Never met anybody who didn't. You might want to consider doing a front end alignment and adding some negative camber to minimize the "chunking" of the rubber on the outside edges. It'll also help keep your car from "pushing" too bad. I ran street pads the first time out and it wasn't too bad, although like was mentioned, 2 consecutive hot laps and the brakes were toast :)

Tylerb59 07-07-2005 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by burbman
If you want to get out there, I would say to do it soon (like this year) Don was talking about a bad crash that happened down in Cali at a track that will have the insurance companies thinking twice about covering schools like his. At the very best, prices will probably have to go way up just to cover increased premiums.

Oh wow ... didn't know insurance WOULD assist. I figured once you're out there you're on your own.

I know at least that's the case with open track / drag.


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