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fst100 Jan 27, 2012 08:04 PM

Why won't ecm go into pe mode?
 
Can someone look at my bin file please? Im scanning via ls1m and at stock pe tps the ecm still is in closed loop. If I holds the throttle at 100% for a over a few seconds the car hesitates then goes into limp/open loop and I get the cel light fire 0131/0151. Cleared it and rerun and still same scenario. I can lay the throttle steady at 75% and it will remain in closed loop. Need some help please I'm clueless :(

fst100 Jan 27, 2012 08:33 PM

Here's what I did so far:
Swapped both pre-cat O2s
Changed maf sensor

Haven't checked fuel pressure yet but again what's odd is the ecm doesn't go into pe mode as what's commanded in the ecm. Why?

soundengineer Jan 27, 2012 09:19 PM

post the file or a link to the file...cant tell you what is wrong without being able to see teh tune..

fst100 Jan 27, 2012 10:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
file attached. thanks by the way

soundengineer Jan 27, 2012 10:32 PM

do you also have an HP Tuners scan log of this happening by chance?

I dont see anything obvious in the tune itself...but maybe there is more to it..
something showing rpm, MAP, MAF HZ, Ignition timing, knock retard, fuel trims, injector duty cycle, Injector pulse width, Dynamic Cylinder air, TPS, Commanded AFR, a wideband if you have one, and whatever else you feel is pertinent to the file


as a guess I can only think that maybe you are Just really lean or maybe really rich at part throttle and its just stumbling, or maybe you are getting some knock as I see that you have increased the timing down low...maybe its just too far?..


what RPM is this happening at?
what rpm are you holding it at 75% throttle when its not going into PE..and what are you looking at to tell that it is not in PE/open loop

fst100 Jan 27, 2012 10:42 PM

tuning via hp tuners. Currently scanning using ls1m as its compact than a laptop. the ls1m can fit up to 10 paramets at a time. To see the switch between open and closed loop it has that as a parameter. I can try to lid a scan using hp tuners but I never was able to find a way to log a scan....something I'm doing wrong

soundengineer Jan 27, 2012 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by fst100 (Post 15894031)
tuning via hp tuners. Currently scanning using ls1m as its compact than a laptop. the ls1m can fit up to 10 paramets at a time. To see the switch between open and closed loop it has that as a parameter. I can try to lid a scan using hp tuners but I never was able to find a way to log a scan....something I'm doing wrong

yeah... its as simple as hitting the little play button in the upper middle right of the top bar in the scanner....
then when you stop the scanning, you can save it to a file with an icon just to the left of that...

really need to be looking at it in HPT...
no idea what that LS1m is....but I have a feeling its feeding you some bogus data...

fst100 Jan 27, 2012 10:50 PM

I'll run a scan log tomorrow.stay tune please :)

fst100 Jan 27, 2012 11:53 PM

dunno if this works but click the link to d/l the scan log i just did a short run.
click here

fst100 Jan 27, 2012 11:54 PM

if not that try this link
click #2

fst100 Jan 28, 2012 12:00 AM

just noticed the excel csv log looks fubar'd....dunno how'd that happen with hp tuners...hrmm

qqwqeqwrqwqtq Jan 28, 2012 12:02 AM

If the TPS voltage is too high at WOT it will exit PE

fst100 Jan 28, 2012 12:03 AM

how could it be too high to exit PE? i dont quite understand that. isnt the TPS goes by a voltage?

soundengineer Jan 28, 2012 12:03 AM

it needs to be in an HPT log file format..

.hpl

we can look at it in a csv, but its a pain in the ass to see what is going on

fst100 Jan 28, 2012 12:04 AM

the values in cvs looks all inaccurate IMO

soundengineer Jan 28, 2012 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 15894214)
If the TPS voltage is too high at WOT it will exit PE


If TPS voltage is too high, it throws a code, and he hasnt said its throwing the TPS high voltage code

fst100 Jan 28, 2012 12:08 AM

one thing i noticed was when i stayed in at 100% throttle and felt the very slight hesitation where it went from closed to open loop/DTC came on for 0131/0151 that my commanded AFR went from 12.4 to 11.77 for some reasona dn of course both my LTFT/STFT zeroed out and my O2s were double digits and never triple. oh and i dont get KR when its in this limp mode/open loop

soundengineer Jan 28, 2012 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by fst100 (Post 15894220)
the values in cvs looks all inaccurate IMO

correct..your excel file is jacked somewhow... several lines skewed by one column..and only in spots...

soundengineer Jan 28, 2012 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by fst100 (Post 15894229)
one thing i noticed was when i stayed in at 100% throttle and felt the very slight hesitation where it went from closed to open loop/DTC came on for 0131/0151 that my commanded AFR went from 12.4 to 11.77 for some reasona dn of course both my LTFT/STFT zeroed out and my O2s were double digits and never triple. oh and i dont get KR when its in this limp mode/open loop


again...post it in a .hpl that I can open in the scanner and I can look at it more

fst100 Jan 28, 2012 12:10 AM

im home now and wont be able to get another log until tomorrow sometime. how do i save it in hpl format and not cvs?


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