Blwn_by_Twins

iTrader: (6)

Am looking at buying HP Tuners, but am not quite sure about how the "credits" work. I have a 98 T/A with a 02 pcm. So if I buy HP tuners and do the 2 credit unlock for my car can I tune my car as much as I want for no additional cost, or do I use credits every time I change something? The way I understand it now for example is, I use it to tune after I buy it. Then if I add h/c/i or some other mod the following year I have to use more credits b/c I'm changing the tune. Is this right? If so then does it charge you more credits EVERY time you change something? My understanding on the unlimited unlock will allow me to tune other 02's but additional credits would be needed for each additional VIN.

Old Geezer

iTrader: (3)

Once you "credit" your PCM, you can tune and load as many times as you want. [On your PCM, only.]
Buy EFILIVE, 98 tuning is free.... For as many cars as you want to work on.........

kjhallex

iTrader: (1)

Once you buy credits for that vin you dont have to buy any more unless you go with a custom OS.

MUSTANGBRKR02

iTrader: (91)

If he has a 02 PCM then it won't be free.

Once you license your PCM then you can tune it once or a million times. Only time it will cost more credits is to go to a custom OS (operating system like 2 bar etc)

If you are already there then it will cost you 4 credits to license your PCM then the custom OS seeing as to what your SN is.

Phil'sC5vette

iTrader: (4)

the guys are correct. Once you license the VIN to the HP Tuners interface, you can access the car as many times as you'd like. It was a good move to uprade to the 2002 PCM. It have more tuning options than the 1998

Texas_WS6

iTrader: (9)

Only time after that that you would have to pay for more credits is if you change the PCM for some reason. The crdits liscense you to that PCM. Also if you want to utilize the RTT (Real Time Tuning) it too will cost you 2 credits. I have a total of 6 credits used on my PCM. You would change the OS for 2 crdits if you ever go forced induction or if you want to convert to a SD only OS. But once you convert the PCM to say 2 barr OS and pay the 2 credits, you can switch to any of the OS systems on that PCM without having to pay any more credits. So to tune your car as many times as you want it cost 2 credits, to utilise RTT it cost you 2 more credits, and if you change the OS it costs you 2 credits. 6 credits is the most you will spend on your PCM (unless you change to a different PCM).

Old Geezer

iTrader: (3)

"If he has a 02 PCM then it won't be free. "

Sorry, missed that.

sreve

iTrader: (3)

HPT won't like that mismatch, will likly require a stream license.

Blwn_by_Twins

iTrader: (6)

Stream license?

edcmat-l1

iTrader: (10)

Only if it has the 98 VIN in it, otherwise, if its a 2002 VIN shouldn't be a problem.

HeavyMetl

iTrader: (2)

I used HPTuners on my swap to just remove VATS, rear O2's, etc.

However, if I take it to a shop to get a real dyno tune, will my HPtuners still work when I get it home? Not that I'd mess with a professional tune...but it would still be nice to access and start learning from there.

foff667

iTrader: (2)

Not if he's using a 2002 PCM it ain't.

Mike454SS

iTrader: (4)

If he's got a 2002 PCM, with a 2002 OS, and a 1998 VIN flashed into it, then yeah, he'll have problems with HPTuners...I couldn't even get HPTuners to read a friends car that is a 1998 VIN in a 1999 PCM/OS.

If he's got a 2002 PCM, with a 2002 OS, and a 2002 Camaro's VIN number...he'll be fine though...it will just think his car is that 2002 car, not the 98 that the registry of motor vehicles says it is.

duck33

I've got 2 2000 ta's. One has a SD tune and I want to tune the other with a SD tune. Will it take double the credits of 1 car? In other words 12 credits?

foff667

iTrader: (2)

SD is simply a mode that the pcm enters when the maf is failed, and would simply be 2 credits to license the vehicle using the stock operating system and then fail the pcm.

If you wanted to go the route of a custom operating system we offer a speed density custom operating system that simplifies speed density tuning which is 2 credits to apply per vehicle.

macca_779

Just get someone with EFI LIVE to change the VIN to what ever HPTuners needs. But yes if you don't know someone with it then your stuffed if using HPT.