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Old 04-02-2005, 04:01 PM
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Default just finished H/C install on my procharged 98

so here's my problem it's running so rich it's hurting my eyes. but from the logs it's says it's lean stft went to +59 and ltft are at +25. and o2's stay at 20's and 30's,they only went up to 860 once. are my 02's bad? i think they got soaked in coolant when i swaped the heads. i'm also getting from 10 to 15 degrees of knock retard. did i scale the injectors correctly? i multiplied the stock 28's by 2.06. i have delphi 50lbs injectors on it that ran fine before the H/C swap. any ideas guys?????????





also i took a video clip of it running, how can host this myself?
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well just bought some o2's for the hell of it and it's still running the same.
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i got 2.00 @58 lbs, according to the FT it is runnin lean but the VCM is over correcting for it dumping way more gas than actually needed, adjust PE accordingly.......that's my theory anyway
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What are all your mods and all the specs?

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+ltrims are rich, -ltrims are lean.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
+ltrims are rich, -ltrims are lean.




I agree you o2's might of been soaked in coolant, and are now fouled over with fuel and are dead. I'd look into vette rear o2's. I've also seen extreme excess fueling causing knock, or false knock.
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like i said i replaced the o2's and it is still running the same. so how can i correct this?
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**edit** video didn't work
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i need to host this somewhere better but this is all i found.

click http://rapidshare.de/files/1113674/1.wmv.html

scroll to bottom-
click free-
wait for however many seconds it says at BOTTOM-
then download-
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
+ltrims are rich, -ltrims are lean.
oh ok so it is rich how do i correct this
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Sounds like an exhaust leak to me. O2 sensors are reading the o2 from the air leaking in making your car think your lean so it dumps fuel.
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oh ok so it is rich how do i correct this
+LTFT means the pcm adds fuel due to a lean condition. -LTFT pcm pulls fuel from the mix. If your pegged +25 that meas the pcm is dumping in a ton of extra fuel, most likely a mialfunction somewhere, or a tuning problem.

Did you retune it for h/c, perhaps its not programed for the 50lbs injectors? did you try running with no maf? How big is the cam? is the problem idle only or when your driving. Might need to rescale your VE table big time if its a large cam. Hopefully its a blower cam with low overlap. loose harness somewhere ect.
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Originally Posted by Moparnos
so here's my problem it's running so rich it's hurting my eyes. but from the logs it's says it's lean stft went to +59 and ltft are at +25. and o2's stay at 20's and 30's,they only went up to 860 once. are my 02's bad? i think they got soaked in coolant when i swaped the heads. i'm also getting from 10 to 15 degrees of knock retard. did i scale the injectors correctly? i multiplied the stock 28's by 2.06. i have delphi 50lbs injectors on it that ran fine before the H/C swap. any ideas guys??
Unless the black smoke is really thick, your eyes burning means it is lean, not rich. Believe your fuel trims.

Good luck,Ed
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Originally Posted by SmokingWS6
+LTFT means the pcm adds fuel due to a lean condition. -LTFT pcm pulls fuel from the mix. If your pegged +25 that meas the pcm is dumping in a ton of extra fuel, most likely a mialfunction somewhere, or a tuning problem.

Did you retune it for h/c, perhaps its not programed for the 50lbs injectors? did you try running with no maf? How big is the cam? is the problem idle only or when your driving. Might need to rescale your VE table big time if its a large cam. Hopefully its a blower cam with low overlap. loose harness somewhere ect.
how do i rescale ve table?
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Yeah, positive ltft's mean lean. You need to give it some fuel.
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after messing with the tune all day i have the ltft and stft between -5/+5. idles ok at 850 but still getting upto 14 degrees of KR at times. also i think the two grounds at the back of the driver head are messed up and are not ground the pcm i believe.
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oh so what do you think of the vid clip?sound good or no




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