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LS1BlackBird99 Apr 30, 2007 07:51 PM

LTFT's maxed
 
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Anyone have any suggestions on how to get my LTFT's from being being maxed at 25? I'm very new to tuning and they are maxed. Really not sure where to start. Can't afford a pro right now...

LS1BlackBird99 Apr 30, 2007 09:15 PM

I set my PE to 1.13 and set the hot as I have my cold for the "tip in" of PE, I zeroed out the adder as well and am using the commanded PE to handle fueling. I've also added 2% twice to my maf from idle to 7500Hz and it hasn't done much to my trims. :(

ZL1Killa Apr 30, 2007 10:42 PM

you need to leave the MAF numbers alone. Set your PE numbers what you want WOT.

normal driving should be ~14.6 AFR w/fuel trims

go out and record your fuel trims as the same plot of RPM vs MAP (i believe), ANYWAY its the same as the VE table.

THEN: watch ur fuel trims. get a good idea what they are and drive around for at least 2k frames (20min + - ) try to hit various cells between 1k rpm at least 4k rpm (short periods)
you will be able to tell what your fuel trims are going towards, 'rough idea'

get in your tune and change your VE table according to HALF the value of the averaged trim from the scan. (if its bad like above 10 (in the negative or positive direction) go ahead and increase or decrease it by that in the VE). flash and see if it changed it

LS1BlackBird99 May 1, 2007 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by ZL1Killa
you need to leave the MAF numbers alone. Set your PE numbers what you want WOT.

normal driving should be ~14.6 AFR w/fuel trims

go out and record your fuel trims as the same plot of RPM vs MAP (i believe), ANYWAY its the same as the VE table.

THEN: watch ur fuel trims. get a good idea what they are and drive around for at least 2k frames (20min + - ) try to hit various cells between 1k rpm at least 4k rpm (short periods)
you will be able to tell what your fuel trims are going towards, 'rough idea'

get in your tune and change your VE table according to HALF the value of the averaged trim from the scan. (if its bad like above 10 (in the negative or positive direction) go ahead and increase or decrease it by that in the VE). flash and see if it changed it


Alright I returned my MAF table to stock and am going to edit the primary VE table a little bit today and see how it works out. I will keep you guys posted! Thanks again

oange ss May 1, 2007 02:15 PM

be sure to reset your Fuel Trims after changes and before scanning

ZL1Killa May 1, 2007 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by oange ss
be sure to reset your Fuel Trims after changes and before scanning

yeh, thats always a good thing

LS1BlackBird99 May 1, 2007 11:00 PM

I've tried editing the Main VE table a bit and I have gotten rid of my KR but the LTFT's are still incredibly whack. I also just noticed my IAT gauge is in the red. What in the world causes that?

LS1BlackBird99 May 2, 2007 11:56 AM

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I changed the VE table to adjust for the fuel trims and the scan from that is Scan 6. I then tried this morning to return the VE table to stock and change the MAF table by 6% and scan 7 is the result. Think this might be the way to go?

ringram May 2, 2007 12:51 PM

Consider an upgrade to your OS version as well to an 00+ OS

But you should disable the maf and tune the VE until your trims are near zero before even looking at the maf else you will be chasing your tail all year. Once your VE is good then re-enable the maf and readjust until they are zero again.

Better yet dump the maf in the bin.

LS1BlackBird99 May 2, 2007 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by ringram
Consider an upgrade to your OS version as well to an 00+ OS

But you should disable the maf and tune the VE until your trims are near zero before even looking at the maf else you will be chasing your tail all year. Once your VE is good then re-enable the maf and readjust until they are zero again.

Better yet dump the maf in the bin.

What exactly do you mean by dump the maf in the bin?

black_z May 2, 2007 05:46 PM

Tune the car speed density. ^^ That is a goofy situation for the little mods that your car has. Have you flashed back to a bone stock tune to see what they are doing then?

LS1BlackBird99 May 3, 2007 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by black_z
Tune the car speed density. ^^ That is a goofy situation for the little mods that your car has. Have you flashed back to a bone stock tune to see what they are doing then?

Yea I know it is crazy that it is that off with just boltons. I have tried it with the stock tune and it's just terrible then also. I unplugged the MAF and have started to tune the LTFT's. I am going to get a WB soon so it will make it a lot easier. I'll keep you guys updated.

ZL1Killa May 3, 2007 09:02 AM

leave the MAF on the car. get your VE tuned in and your fuel trims should level off.

why is your IAT in the red?? if your IAT is messed up it could be causing your problems


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