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Old 07-28-2010, 09:07 AM
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The headlights should stay down when just the park(middle setting) and fog lights are switched on.
Usually a stripped gear will cause them to pop up when the parking lights are turned on. (when you use the fob do they pop up/down?)
Also Canadian models have the auto headlights which make them pop open.
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Originally Posted by jethro81z28
how can I make my headlight doors stay down when i have it on the park lights..2002 transam..no prob. with my lights just want 2 drive with my fogs on
Naughty naughty.

How about wiring it so the fog lights get power when the headlight switch is is the parking light position. A relay should do the trick.
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i hope u would just use that feature for show cause the fog lamps on these cars are crap for driving.
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Alright I need some help, I'm about to take a sledgehammer to my headlights.

1 year ago I installed metal gears in both headlight motors. Now all of the sudden they are doing the same old routine when I lock or unlock the car; going up, down and making that loud grinding noise. Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by 01formula6
1 year ago I installed metal gears in both headlight motors. Now all of the sudden they are doing the same old routine when I lock or unlock the car; going up, down and making that loud grinding noise. Any ideas?
Very simple, either the motor is cocked sideways or else the cover glue/epoxy has weakened. Either way, the gears are slipping under high torque.

The fix is to tighten them up again. Wiggle the motor, if it has play in it bang down the metal tabs that hold it in place. If the cover came loose, reseal it.
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Thanks, I will give those things a check. I rotated the motor 180* earlier today and the problem is gone for now.
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I finally got around to installing the HID kits into my LMC housings.

I wanted to mount the ballasts on the engine side of everything, not just behind the headlights where water is more prevalent.

The left side was pretty easy. I pulled out the molded plastic housing that the two fuse blocks sit in. The fuse blocks and the housing all pull out after depressing tabs. I simply drilled some holes and tie-wrapped the ballast neatly to the outside. This worked well and it was easy.

The right side is a bit more involved. I pulled the battery to mount the ballast. I drilled one hole and passed some twisted together safety wire through. This worked pretty well also.

Wiring for both sides: I passed the original bulb’s positive wire to the other side and made a nice crimp to the ballast feed. It's negative got a nice crimp to the radiator support along with a 12 gauge tail for a high beam harness upgrade that’ll be later.

You are all crimping with the proper tool that correctly dimples the joint, not flattens it like the cheap tool does, right?

The bulbs were a bit of a tight fit through the headlight buckets. There are a few tabs in the opening. I bent the bottom one back and forth until it snapped off. They clear the bulbs nicely now.

I’ll have to get a night pic of the lights posted. It did seem that the beam went too high so I adjusted them downwards. I’ll be out hoisting a few cold ones tonight and I’ll have a T15 driver with me and I'll at least be able to later report how they look from the driver's seat. I HATE headlights that blind people and I refuse to be one of them.

Forgive my fugly battery and the cabling. This is not representative of my usual finished work. In short time I’m installing a British made battery in the trunk.

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OK guys here's the verdict:

ONCE YOU GO HID YOU'LL NEVER GO BACK!

I shoulda done this a long time ago.

Just do it, you won't be sorry.

Some nightime pics:

On a street in NYC at a crosswalk & trash bags. Headlights off then on.

On my garage door, lows then highs & lows. You can easily see the well defined beam and cut off point in the lows. This is from the LMC housings. You won't get this in any other housing, incandescent or HID.
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Default Headlight motor gear fix issue...

SO my headlight motor has been grinding, which is a symtom of a worn gear. So today I tried to do the quick fixt of unhooking the arm off the motor and rotating the motor 180 degrees with the ****.

Technically, that did the trick. The headlight now goes up and down w/out grinding.

But, I have a problem now. When shutting the lights off, the door goes all the way down, then the motor reverses a bit, and the door raises back up about a 1/4 inch. So yes it's shut, but it sticks up a bit and is not down as far as the other side.

I tried unhooking it and rotating the **** a little bit more, but that didn't help.

Is there some way to adjust this??

Thanks!!!
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lol ur that ******* who blinds everybody...haha

nice job dude, looks like you did your homework..!!
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Default Where can I buy a headlight motor **** for a 1987 TA?

Ive checked Ebay and google...no luck. My **** is cracked and doesnt work lol
I can only turn the **** a little before it slips.

Thanks
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It going past the stopper. Odds are the little white stopper either fell off or is missing a piece. I mention it in the sticky (sig).
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Thanks...I completely missed that sticky. Tons of good info in there.

I think the stoppers are good, I remember seeing them in there.

One thing that I didn't mention was that the lights worked perfect before I unhooked the arm.

I hated driving around looking ghetto all day with the lights up, so what I would do is open the fuse box and put the fuse in long enough to clese them, then pull it right out when it started to grind. The lights would always both go down all the way and be perfectly flush with the hood and even on both sides.

I did get out of the video how to adjust the covers, so I'll give that a shot if it's not the stopper.

Thanks again.
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Tried searching through all 40+ pages but I gave up.

Roughly 2 years ago my passenger side low beam headlight was flickering when I would hit a bump and then stop working all together. I found out that the connector or socket (female) was melted on the end and causing this problem. I was able then to splice in a new socket that I sourced from a Cadillac dealership. As of yesterday, it is doing it all over again. What are my options? Does anyone know the part number for the socket so I can look again at a stealership or a way to create my own and splice the new one in?
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From Rock Auto:

DORMAN Part # 85896 2-Wire headlamp Socket 4703 Bulb High Beam $8.52

DORMAN Part # 85897 2-Wire headlamp Socket 4701 Bulb High Beam $8.52
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Actually I just found the socket at Autozone and had to 2 day order it for $5.99 (pick up at my local store), cheaper than any online site.

Thanks

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Picked my car up after some work was done at the dealer, apparently the headlights started grinding while it was there.

Some reading on here, 1 hour later. Fixed! Just used the manual raise/lower mechanism to rotate the gear. Great info in this thread.
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Just installed my 6000k HIDs in low beam LMC housings, ( part #: 36-0302 ) and 9006 DDM hid kit, i adjusted them down a bit, but not too much, these housings are amazing, and cut off is pretty amazing as well, i spent $140 total on the head lights, I also have 6000k HID fogs.

I'd also like to state that the above combo is plug and play, no splicing, cutting, anything, pretty much same as the fogs.

Here's a video of the headlights only, the video makes it look wayy blue, another neat thing I noticed with these housings is the bulb cover inside the housing, it makes it so it's not as blinding to on-coming traffic, and I only had to adjust them down a few turns, WAYYY better then eurolamps conversion housings.

I'd also like to thank Paul Bell for recommending these amazing housings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44oN6tOSI8s

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Originally Posted by mischief
another neat thing I noticed with these housings is the bulb cover inside the housing, it makes it so it's not as blinding to on-coming traffic, and I only had to adjust them down a few turns, WAYYY better then eurolamps conversion housings.
That right there is what makes this hands down a much better designed kit. And its also cheaper then the cheaply designed Eurolamps.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Very simple, either the motor is cocked sideways or else the cover glue/epoxy has weakened. Either way, the gears are slipping under high torque.

The fix is to tighten them up again. Wiggle the motor, if it has play in it bang down the metal tabs that hold it in place. If the cover came loose, reseal it.
I pulled the motor out last night and sure enough the epoxy had completely come undone and the cover came right off. Things are now working correctly again. Thanks for the help.


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