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Old 03-04-2017, 11:34 AM
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I could see someone replacing that hideous T/A front end with a Formula front end, but I don't think I've ever seen a cross-generational graft before.

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I'm in Las Vegas nv so today got the engine out didn't take to long had my 15 yo nephew there to help and get his little hands in spots I couldn't lol .here a few pics of it and after I got the motor out I tore it down real fast and seen some thing I have never seen before what you guys think ?
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Yeah that motor is ugly.
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Bearings and rockers push rods chain was all great shape I was surprised
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The K-member has to be swapped to go from an LT-era to LS-era fourth-gen, so I'd go with just the front end swap theory as that would be much easier for the average backyard mechanic.

My '95 'bird has an opening in the driver's-side inner fender well for the fuel lines. LS-era cars did not have this opening. Since your car doesn't have the opening, that further tells me it's a LS-era car (whether or not it started life as a V6 or LS).
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Well, the tail lights tell a story....

It looks like this may not been an accident car, but the PO may have done this for looks???

It looks like the rear tail lights had the retro mod done to them.
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Like I have said vin and door stickers say ls1
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And no offense to any body I would never own a lt1 next to the North Star it is something I think the design of is just dumb and a waste p
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Originally Posted by Formula702
And no offense to any body I would never own a lt1 next to the North Star it is something I think the design of is just dumb and a waste p
I guess you are going to have to keep that sticker on the ground effects, then. lol
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I guess you are going to have to keep that sticker on the ground effects, then. lol
No lol that's gonna be gone when the car gets cleaned plus it's not hard to hear the difference between old sbc and new sbc imo
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holy **** that piston is screwed in! but seriously how the hell did you get a phillips screw into the combustion chamber
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Originally Posted by blackbyrd
holy **** that piston is screwed in! but seriously how the hell did you get a phillips screw into the combustion chamber
no idea I have never worked on the car bought it did a oil change had to be in there I'd assume not to many self tappers around car ? lol it is what it is some how have to pull pistons out my bitt now
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Sorry wasn't implying you did it was generalizing.

That's crazy someone would almost have to do that on purpose
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[QUOTE=blackbyrd;19554353]Sorry wasn't implying you did it was generalizing.

That's crazy someone would almost have to do that on purpose[/QUOTE I agree with u here very hard not to say it wasn't on purpose kinda crappy situation .very odd it made it though and some how got stuck just glad it didn't touch cylinder wall
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Holy crap! I thought you were "screwed" because of the carbon build-up. I totally missed the actual screw. I can't believe that thing is still there and didn't snap off.

Are they on every piston? Maybe this is some sort of redneck spark plug arc optimization mod that doesn't actually do anything but screw up your combustion???
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Holy crap! I thought you were "screwed" because of the carbon build-up. I totally missed the actual screw. I can't believe that thing is still there and didn't snap off.

Are they on every piston? Maybe this is some sort of redneck spark plug arc optimization mod that doesn't actually do anything but screw up your combustion???
no just the one lol I didn't even drive the car two full months pulled up to work and was knocking I assumed rod knock or stuck lifter so the other day I seen that sucks even stamped the Phillips head in the head
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Heat and pressure make for some crazy stuff. Most likely it melted into position rather than being screwed into the piston. It was probably floating around in the intake for a while before it made it into the cylinder. Though it probably made contact with the valve several times before working it's way in. You may find the rest of it in one of the intake ports honestly. Craziest thing I have scene in a while. Recently I remember a postwhere a guy dropped a valve and it did something similar to this scarred the piston good and the shaft of the valve ended up gouging the CC chamber of the head and sticking
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Originally Posted by blackbyrd
Heat and pressure make for some crazy stuff. Most likely it melted into position rather than being screwed into the piston. It was probably floating around in the intake for a while before it made it into the cylinder. Though it probably made contact with the valve several times before working it's way in. You may find the rest of it in one of the intake ports honestly. Craziest thing I have scene in a while. Recently I remember a postwhere a guy dropped a valve and it did something similar to this scarred the piston good and the shaft of the valve ended up gouging the CC chamber of the head and sticking
it's actually stuck in the piston perfect and still have the self tapper point on it i backed it out with a screw drive
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Originally Posted by Formula702
I seen that sucks even stamped the Phillips head in the head
I just noticed that. The screw looks new as does that impression. It couldn't have been there long.

Was the air filter torn up? I'm trying to figure out how it got in there.'

Wow. That part should be donated to the Piston Hall of Fame.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
I just noticed that. The screw looks new as does that impression. It couldn't have been there long.

Was the air filter torn up? I'm trying to figure out how it got in there.'

Wow. That part should be donated to the Piston Hall of Fame.
no bo sign in came from filter had to be in intake from po and the day I turned to work it came out it knocked for maybe 15 seconds i Parked it and towed it home yea it's in my garage next to my train piston me other broken parts from cars I never touched the car other then checking fluids car still had what I would assume is factory plugs but did have two exhaust gaskets so some one was in it at some point


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