Firebird Headlights--ALL COMMENTS/QUESTIONS REGARDING HEADLIGHTS GO IN HERE
05-28-2018, 09:53 PM
#1941
I tested the metal prongs leaving the headlight control module going to the light blue and green wires with a test light. Both are hot all the time except when the headlights go down; the light goes off for about 5 seconds and come back on. With the darker blue and green wires they only turn thr light on for a second when I turn off the lamps.
I also took that test light and checked the 5 wire harness going directly to the headlight motor and lamps.
The wire going to the motor is always hot until the lamp doors are closing. Then this light turns off for about 5 seconds.
I also tested my old motor off the battery which worked great.
I'm thinking about replacing the connector(s) going into the headlight control module...
05-29-2018, 07:44 AM
#1942
Also...
I tested the metal prongs leaving the headlight control module going to the light blue and green wires with a test light. Both are hot all the time except when the headlights go down; the light goes off for about 5 seconds and come back on. With the darker blue and green wires they only turn thr light on for a second when I turn off the lamps.
I also took that test light and checked the 5 wire harness going directly to the headlight motor and lamps.
The wire going to the motor is always hot until the lamp doors are closing. Then this light turns off for about 5 seconds.
I also tested my old motor off the battery which worked great.
I'm thinking about replacing the connector(s) going into the headlight control module...
I tested the metal prongs leaving the headlight control module going to the light blue and green wires with a test light. Both are hot all the time except when the headlights go down; the light goes off for about 5 seconds and come back on. With the darker blue and green wires they only turn thr light on for a second when I turn off the lamps.
I also took that test light and checked the 5 wire harness going directly to the headlight motor and lamps.
The wire going to the motor is always hot until the lamp doors are closing. Then this light turns off for about 5 seconds.
I also tested my old motor off the battery which worked great.
I'm thinking about replacing the connector(s) going into the headlight control module...
05-29-2018, 07:46 AM
#1943
A very likely cause would be that you changed your original module out and that your "new" module was just someone else's bad module. (I'm not sure how solid Hawk's testing of something like this could be...)
05-29-2018, 08:42 AM
#1944
What's weird about this is that the passenger light works every time... If there's an issue with the polarity and both sets of wires are doing the same thing, shouldn't it thoeretically cause an issue with the passenger light too?
05-29-2018, 09:10 PM
#1945
A good six pack will probably solve your problem. Give it (along with the schematic above) to someone good with electrical and who owns a proper multi-meter and they should be able to trace what's going on pretty fast. A 12V source and some probes will also allow for a pretty easy bench test of the modules, as well.
06-01-2018, 08:28 PM
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So uhh fixed mine. I turned the motors about an eighth turn both directions and now they work fine...
Ideas? Maybe a bit of wd40 on the linkage? Definitely weird to have this happen to both at the same time
Ideas? Maybe a bit of wd40 on the linkage? Definitely weird to have this happen to both at the same time
06-03-2018, 11:33 AM
#1947
The only thing this should be used for on a car is loosening rusty bolts. WD40 will dissolve the rust in the joint and wash out when it gets wet. This will make your headlights squeak when the move in just a few months.
A can of spray white lithium grease would be a better choice for this location. (The same stuff you would lube hood hinges and latches with.)
A can of spray white lithium grease would be a better choice for this location. (The same stuff you would lube hood hinges and latches with.)
06-03-2018, 11:34 AM
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The only thing this should be used for on a car is loosening rusty bolts. WD40 will dissolve the rust in the joint and wash out when it gets wet. This will make your headlights squeak when the move in just a few months.
A can of spray white lithium grease would be a better choice for this location. (The same stuff you would lube hood hinges and latches with.)
A can of spray white lithium grease would be a better choice for this location. (The same stuff you would lube hood hinges and latches with.)
Thanks for the heads up!
06-04-2018, 08:15 AM
#1949
WD in WD-40 stands for "Water Displacement", which it seems do and lubricate - just not for long. Go figure. It seems that the company is tangling with this and is now selling a complete line of proper lubricants in black and silver striped cans. (The "WD-40" brand also has the white lithium grease that I'd use on the headlight doors.)
10-26-2018, 04:41 AM
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12-04-2018, 04:04 PM
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1995 firebird formula questions. I have a 95’ Formula, read up on the “jack hammer / grinding” noise that comes from my pop ups as they closed, know how to fix now. but a new problem just showed itself. now the pop ups come up when i turn the **** in any position (other than off) they come up with it’s turned just to marker and interior lights and they pop up when i turn it to the headlight setting. only problem is. the headlights don’t turn on. pop ups come up and go down fine (other than the grinding from the plastic gear) but headlights don’t turn on.
any help would be appreciated.
another question; when i romp on the car and hit the gas i head a loud thud from what sounds like right under the shift selector (it’s an automatic). the transmission was taken out and professionally rebuilt right before i bought it. is it possible that the previous person didn’t tighten the bell housing bolts enough and the torque from the engine is causing the transmission or drive shaft to hit the underbody?
Thanks in advance.
any help would be appreciated.
another question; when i romp on the car and hit the gas i head a loud thud from what sounds like right under the shift selector (it’s an automatic). the transmission was taken out and professionally rebuilt right before i bought it. is it possible that the previous person didn’t tighten the bell housing bolts enough and the torque from the engine is causing the transmission or drive shaft to hit the underbody?
Thanks in advance.
12-05-2018, 11:29 AM
#1952
I'm not going to be any help with the headlight issue (other than check your fuses & headlight switch for loose / broken wires), but the thunk may be a bad engine mount or trans mount. My guess is that if your bellhousing wasn't tight to the engine you'd have a slew of other noises being made other than just a thud.
01-22-2019, 10:39 PM
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4th gen headlights! Helppp Im at a loss with these things! New motors on both sides, new control module idk what else to replace switch seemed to test good. The wont come up although passenger side sounds like its trying and if you manually do it then itll go down when you cut switch off.
01-23-2019, 06:51 AM
#1957
Moving to the Firebird section.
It sounds like you have been through the headlight sticky, right?
It's not uncommon to have problems after you swap parts. Gremlins can lie elsewhere.
Have you checked the motor connectors for corrosion?
The other thing that has happened is people put in a "new" module and it turns out to be bad. Have you seen the posts on the soldering fix and testing for the module?
It sounds like you have been through the headlight sticky, right?
It's not uncommon to have problems after you swap parts. Gremlins can lie elsewhere.
Have you checked the motor connectors for corrosion?
The other thing that has happened is people put in a "new" module and it turns out to be bad. Have you seen the posts on the soldering fix and testing for the module?
01-23-2019, 09:27 PM
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Moving to the Firebird section.
It sounds like you have been through the headlight sticky, right?
It's not uncommon to have problems after you swap parts. Gremlins can lie elsewhere.
Have you checked the motor connectors for corrosion?
The other thing that has happened is people put in a "new" module and it turns out to be bad. Have you seen the posts on the soldering fix and testing for the module?
It sounds like you have been through the headlight sticky, right?
It's not uncommon to have problems after you swap parts. Gremlins can lie elsewhere.
Have you checked the motor connectors for corrosion?
The other thing that has happened is people put in a "new" module and it turns out to be bad. Have you seen the posts on the soldering fix and testing for the module?
01-23-2019, 10:53 PM
#1959
At the top of the page you should see a set of links that say:
LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion > VEHICLE SPECIFIC FORUMS > Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002
Click on Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 and that will take you to the Firebird forum. That the top of that listing of threads, you'll see the "stickies". One of those is nothing but Firebird flip headlights.
You'll see tons of information in that thread. Since you are wrestling with module issues, among other things, you'll want to be sure to check out the discussion starting at post #1838.
LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion > VEHICLE SPECIFIC FORUMS > Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002
Click on Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 and that will take you to the Firebird forum. That the top of that listing of threads, you'll see the "stickies". One of those is nothing but Firebird flip headlights.
You'll see tons of information in that thread. Since you are wrestling with module issues, among other things, you'll want to be sure to check out the discussion starting at post #1838.
01-24-2019, 12:10 AM
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At the top of the page you should see a set of links that say:
LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion > VEHICLE SPECIFIC FORUMS > Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002
Click on Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 and that will take you to the Firebird forum. That the top of that listing of threads, you'll see the "stickies". One of those is nothing but Firebird flip headlights.
You'll see tons of information in that thread. Since you are wrestling with module issues, among other things, you'll want to be sure to check out the discussion starting at post #1838.
LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion > VEHICLE SPECIFIC FORUMS > Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002
Click on Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 and that will take you to the Firebird forum. That the top of that listing of threads, you'll see the "stickies". One of those is nothing but Firebird flip headlights.
You'll see tons of information in that thread. Since you are wrestling with module issues, among other things, you'll want to be sure to check out the discussion starting at post #1838.