Pontiac GTO 2004-2006 The Modern Goat

Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)

Old 02-23-2013, 01:40 PM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Bucksuade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)

I'm just curious about this question. I'm actually considering doing it but I need someone's opinion. also I would like to know if this is a fair deal.

A few days ago, I saw a GTO for sale at a car lot for $7995. so I went to go check it out and it seems like a pretty good car to buy. everything seems okay with the car, so I'm considering buying it. It has 140k miles on it and run great. it stock (I believe) and everything seems pretty okay with it. The problem Im having is whether I want to sell/ trade in my car to get the GTO. I have a 2001 Pontiac Firebird Formula In Excellent Condition. it runs great and there's nothing wrong with that either. Everything is stock and has 104k miles on it. the car looks amazing. The only problem with it is the Passenger side window doesn't function and the passenger headlight doesn't flip up and down properly.

Does this seem like a fair trade? should I sell my car and buy the GTO? Is my Car worth the same amount as the GTO? Should I just keep my car?

Any Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and have a good day.
Attached Thumbnails Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)-2012-07-26-20.03.54_miami_2.jpg   Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)-2012-07-26-20.02.47.jpg   Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)-2012-07-26-20.03.37.jpg   Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)-2012-07-26-20.03.11.jpg   Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)-2012-04-02-18.39.04.jpg  

Old 02-23-2013, 01:54 PM
  #2  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (20)
 
06blackGTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: KC.
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. I have owned both. Just got out of a built 06 gto last yr. Now back into a 2000z28. If you plan on leaving either car stock and just mainly cruise in it and haul people in it once in awhile, then I would get the gto.

If you like to have fun and taking corners once in awhile and plan on modding alittle then I would keep the firebird. It's lighter handle's better.

comparing the gto to the firebird is like comparing women. Some are built for comfort and some are built for speed. I decided I like the one's built for speed.



my 06 gto.


when I had both. speed and comfort.


my new one. She will be much faster by summer.
Old 02-23-2013, 04:16 PM
  #3  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
ULTIMATEORANGESS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: eatontown,nj
Posts: 10,976
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 15 Posts

Default

id keep what you have.

if you want a GTO id look for one with much lower miles.
Old 02-24-2013, 03:14 PM
  #4  
TECH Regular
 
thehazz12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: STL
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

F-bombs handle better? What?
Old 02-24-2013, 08:07 PM
  #5  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Blk98Vert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Drive it and see if you like it better. I paid that for my 04 and like it so much better than either of my f bodies
Old 02-24-2013, 09:40 PM
  #6  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Blackpanther99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Baytown, TX
Posts: 6,963
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

I would buy the GTO. They ride smooth!
Old 02-24-2013, 10:48 PM
  #7  
Staging Lane
 
steamwalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Vista, CA
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That's a hell of a lot of miles on that goat. Even so, the price does seem a little on the low side. Clean title?
Old 02-27-2013, 12:01 PM
  #8  
Launching!
 
ACCLR8N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Davisburg, MI
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Being older and wider, I like my GTO a lot better than the T/A I had. Easier to work on too.

Last edited by ACCLR8N; 02-27-2013 at 06:01 PM. Reason: caint spelle
Old 02-27-2013, 12:48 PM
  #9  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (20)
 
06blackGTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: KC.
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ACCLR8N
Being older and wider, I like my GTO a lot better than the T/A I had. Easier to work on to.
That I can agree with. Much easier to do engine work. You could change the plugs and wires in 10min. on the goat.
Old 02-27-2013, 12:59 PM
  #10  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (8)
 
metalmilitia606's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dayton Ohio
Posts: 861
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

If I don't get a wrx for my next car my second choice would be a GTO. I'd spring for a LS2 though.
Old 02-27-2013, 03:19 PM
  #11  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (15)
 
MasterTomos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northeast Iowa
Posts: 3,508
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

It's the same motor and tranny that you'd get in an Fbody, but in a heavier (but more comfortable) car. Just have to pick whats more important to you.
Old 03-06-2013, 08:59 AM
  #12  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Bucksuade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

06blackGTO

LOL i like how you made that comparison... I might go with the gto. I can always go back to and F body if i dont like it.

In comparison, what didn't you like about the gto and what didn't you like about the firebird?

ps. I love those pictures of your cars. The look Great.

Last edited by Bucksuade; 03-06-2013 at 09:05 AM.
Old 03-06-2013, 09:02 AM
  #13  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Bucksuade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

steamwalker

Yes, The title is clean. Im gonna look for another one because of how high the miles are.
Old 03-06-2013, 12:49 PM
  #14  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
svede1212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Had both. The fBod is lighter, It's better for DR with a different rear end, tells everyone for 4 square blocks you're a racer-car, cheap looking, has a crappy ride and sounds (not the engine) like a bucket of bolts. The GTO is heavier, corners great with an upgraded suspension due to IRS, subtle styling or grown-up (take your choice), fantastic interior and seats and has a very taut yet smooth ride. It's also a lot easier to get in and out of as well as carry 4 real people. Anyone that wants to be a boy-racer is better off with the fBod. A nice, rare touring car that can still kick *** the goat.
Old 03-06-2013, 01:22 PM
  #15  
teh PuRpL3z
iTrader: (5)
 
DrEvyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,477
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by thehazz12
F-bombs handle better? What?
I owned a 2004 GTO, and two '98 Firebirds at the same time... and yeah, they do. GTO is a lot more comfortable and the engine is a crapload easier to work on due to the easier access, but the Firebirds are easier to get power out of, and handle better in stock form.
Old 03-06-2013, 07:16 PM
  #16  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
impulsegoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've heard the "heavier" comment a few times in this post now which is fine but does anyone know by how much? Just curious because im thinking 250-300lbs tops right? I could be wrong but 50 of those lbs are in the heavy stock 17s or 18s whichever model year you have compared to the much lighter 16s on the t/a. In either case most owners end up changing out the wheels on both cars which swings that weight in the gto's favor. My car weighs 3540 w/o me in it with some simple weight reduction done.

You are asking this question in gto section so obviously im a bit partial to the gto in just about every aspect besides launching at the drag strip and cornering. I've out 60 footed a lot of camaro's and t/a's with a little practice though. Backseats are as close to non existent as possible in the fbods too. If you test drive the gto you'll be sold. I would agree with others to go for lower mileage though.
Old 03-06-2013, 07:29 PM
  #17  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (20)
 
06blackGTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: KC.
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bucksuade
06blackGTO

LOL i like how you made that comparison... I might go with the gto. I can always go back to and F body if i dont like it.

In comparison, what didn't you like about the gto and what didn't you like about the firebird?

ps. I love those pictures of your cars. The look Great.


I loved the gto, I just wasn't big on the looks. My wife compared it to a cavalier..lol

I liked the comfortable ride the gto had. at 150mph. it was smooth as silk.
I did put it on a diet and w/bigs and littles I had it down to 3420 w/0 driver.
It was fast. 12.0 at 114 on motor and 11.3 at 124 on n20. and pulled a 1.62 60ft. launching at 5k on a monster stage 4 clutch. and stock irs. Here's a run of me running a terminator when I was on motor w/just cam and headers. before heads.


I just wanted to get back into the fbody to get the weight alittle lighter. Plus modding it is cheaper on the fbody. And more aftermarket for it.
Plus I love the way the fbody handles. It's alot more fun driving.

I don't care much for the heavy doors on the fbodies, but I can overlook the little stuff. My yellow ta was a h/c/i LT1 best it ran was a 12.8 on motor. I had way too big of a cam in it, wasn't getting in it's powerband.

You can't go wrong either way, but I think you will miss your fbody.

Last edited by 06blackGTO; 03-06-2013 at 07:40 PM.
Old 03-16-2013, 09:30 AM
  #18  
TECH Fanatic
 
Nathan C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: dayton, ohio
Posts: 1,593
Received 147 Likes on 133 Posts

Default

I've never seen a late model GTO for under $10k. That was a $32,000 car brand new.
Old 03-17-2013, 05:21 PM
  #19  
TECH Regular
 
FryZ71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Da 'Cuse, NY
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

The higher mileage '04s are getting into the >10k range here and there. They were 33K cars new and some people paid too much for them when they first came out...by the later years there were deals to be had. My '06 w/ the M6 and 18s was 25K.

I have a WS6 and a GTO...both are fun to drive. The GTO is more of a "touring" car that is fairly quick stock and has a great interior and real back seats. The WS6 is more of a "raw" car that handles better, but the overall fit and finish is lacking. Stock for stock it's a drivers race.

The F-body is cheaper to mod overall...motor mods are the same $$ but everything else you pay the "GTO tax". But, the GTO is way easier to work on...the motor isn't under the cowl.

Tough choice...some guys go from F-body to GTO and never look back, others go back to F-body and vice-versa. I'm just glad I'm lucky enough to have both because driving each car still brings a smile to my face.
Old 03-27-2013, 10:24 PM
  #20  
Staging Lane
 
PBMGTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MasterTomos
It's the same motor and tranny that you'd get in an Fbody, but in a heavier (but more comfortable) car. Just have to pick whats more important to you.
Incorrect gto's come with the Z06 tranny..

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Firebird Formula For 2004 GTO (just Curious)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 AM.