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So it's my understanding that the stock 04 catback has one chambered muffler and one straight through muffler. My car has kooks headers with no cats, a baby cam and an 04 style Borla catback. I'm biased since it's my car, but I think it sounds great as is but it's just a little quieter than I'd like. It really screams above 4k but it's surprisingly mellow at lower RPMs. It's a 2.25" catback as opposed to the majority of others that are 2.5". I'm curious if I could replace one of the mufflers with a straight pipe or a different (louder) muffler while keeping the other Borla muffler. I know that's obviously possible, but I want to know if that will actually sound good or if it'll sound worse albeit louder. I'd hate to hack up an expensive catback and have it sound bad. I bought it with the Borla catback already on it otherwise I may have kept the stock catback or bought a louder catback to begin with.
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Originally Posted by ddgshdw93
So it's my understanding that the stock 04 catback has one chambered muffler and one straight through muffler. My car has kooks headers with no cats, a baby cam and an 04 style Borla catback. I'm biased since it's my car, but I think it sounds great as is but it's just a little quieter than I'd like. It really screams above 4k but it's surprisingly mellow at lower RPMs. It's a 2.25" catback as opposed to the majority of others that are 2.5". I'm curious if I could replace one of the mufflers with a straight pipe or a different (louder) muffler while keeping the other Borla muffler. I know that's obviously possible, but I want to know if that will actually sound good or if it'll sound worse albeit louder. I'd hate to hack up an expensive catback and have it sound bad. I bought it with the Borla catback already on it otherwise I may have kept the stock catback or bought a louder catback to begin with.
Your understanding is wrong. The 2004 cat back has two identical mufflers. Taking a dual exhaust system and changing the flow in one side of them is a horrible idea.
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Originally Posted by ddgshdw93
So it's my understanding that the stock 04 catback has one chambered muffler and one straight through muffler.
this may actually be correct. There is an old post somewhere on ls1gto.com where they cut the mufflers open and showed this to be the case.

your best bet is to find an original 04 catback, or at least the mufflers.
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Originally Posted by dreadpirateroberts
this may actually be correct. There is an old post somewhere on ls1gto.com where they cut the mufflers open and showed this to be the case.

your best bet is to find an original 04 catback, or at least the mufflers.
Correct separate types to mimic the sound of the 1964 GTO.
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Originally Posted by Felix C
Correct separate types to mimic the sound of the 1964 GTO.
And I suppose you have pictures to back up this rumor?
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Give me a bit to search Ls1gto.com. I did not save that thread. Unlike hundreds others.
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fairly sure the pics are lost. i think they have been for a while.

unless someone wants to chop up another 04 catback.
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I noticed the photo links are gone in a number of the older posts on LS1GTo. too bad place was a gold mine of info.
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I used to have photos of the mufflers cut apart. I think I got them from SLP to show how different each muffler was. They are definitely different.
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They are different. I also saw these pictures and cut open mufflers myself.
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LOL.. he speaks the truth... I actually opted to leave the GTO version 2OTL and replace the mufflers w Magnaflow mufflers and TSP long tubes.. Sounded great imo
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If you want it louder then get high flow catted mid pipes. And pick up 20hp too.
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No get longtubes and catless midpipe with stock 04 catback. It is far from LOUD, but it's a nice tone and volume level.

My old car:

With Stainless Works mufflers:

Custom 3.5" with a single magnapack:
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Originally Posted by ddgshdw93
So it's my understanding that the stock 04 catback has one chambered muffler and one straight through muffler. My car has kooks headers with no cats, a baby cam and an 04 style Borla catback. I'm biased since it's my car, but I think it sounds great as is but it's just a little quieter than I'd like. It really screams above 4k but it's surprisingly mellow at lower RPMs. It's a 2.25" catback as opposed to the majority of others that are 2.5". I'm curious if I could replace one of the mufflers with a straight pipe or a different (louder) muffler while keeping the other Borla muffler. I know that's obviously possible, but I want to know if that will actually sound good or if it'll sound worse albeit louder. I'd hate to hack up an expensive catback and have it sound bad. I bought it with the Borla catback already on it otherwise I may have kept the stock catback or bought a louder catback to begin with.

I have the exact same exhaust, Borla Cat back. in 2007 I did my first engine upgrade. 122 Maggie, blah, blah. THAT woke the exhaust up. It screamed.

Move forward to now. New engine. No CAT's, same Borla (for now, likely to be replaced with a full 3" setup) The car now borders on the absurd when you give it some onion. New engine is a 421cid LSX based setup with Brodix BR7 heads. I'm running a 2.9L Whipple. Still sorting the tune out on it (this one is all me) so any real numbers from a dyno tug aren't possible yet.

If you want the car to sound like a muscle car, either get some high flow cats or get rid of them completely. The difference is WOW.

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