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Old 09-18-2017, 03:17 PM   #1
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So for us that buy fast cars, we always get the bug that bites that makes us want to make them faster after we get used to them. Does that itch ever go away and completely cease though? Is there a power level of which will always give you thrills regardless of how long you've been acustomed to it?

I've never driven or ridden a machine with over 400 HP, so I can't quite invision what 600 HP would feel like, but I wonder, would I ever get tired of it, and want more?

I was thinking of building a N/A 427 with around 620 - 640 HP for ease and simplicity's sake. I was also thinking of a forged LQ4 /or LQ9 and a Supercharger which could easily get you into 700's or higher with the right heads / cam / tune / boost levels but it would cost more than a N/A 427.. one thing about the 427 though is I wont beable to throw boost at it if I want more power down the road without completely redesigning the motor. So the cheaper way is a 620 - 640 HP 427, but the more powerful way is a 700+ HP F.I. LQ4 / LQ9 ...

If I knew I would never get tired of 600 HP, then the 427 wins hands down.
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I've driven thousands of customer and dealer owned cars and at least a hundred were between 6-800HP and they were absolutely terrifying at WOT. I've never owned one, but I would kind of be scared to pass 500WHP because I want to come home to my wife. Lol.
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Nitrous creates an interesting scenario when talking horsepower and your perception. Since its only once in a while (and completely WOT only) it always feels like a pretty major hit. I make around 450 rwhp n/a, and 600 rwhp on the 150 shot. Since I rarely spray it feels like a lot more than just 150 extra horsepower IMO.
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I've ridden in/driven a decent amount of high hp cars including a 1100hp supra. Right around the 650rwhp point for me is where it gets to be a handful. When I start over with FI I am shooting for the 650-700 rwhp range. I really can't see wanting more than that for a pure street car like mine. I personally think 450-500rwhp is a bit boring.
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You get used to it no matter how much you have. Thats why everyone comes back for more boost, it's worse then any drug. They want that first feeling of hitting the gas and getting goosebumps and a **** eating grin. Once that goes away it's time for more. Just have to make sure you can handle it as noted above it can be a handful sometimes. Depending on the weight of the vehicle and traction can certainly change the perception of what that hp can do.
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I've driven thousands of customer and dealer owned cars and at least a hundred were between 6-800HP and they were absolutely terrifying at WOT. I've never owned one, but I would kind of be scared to pass 500WHP because I want to come home to my wife. Lol.
500+ WHP is too scary? Nah, it's not enough for me. I'm a speed & power demon. With that said, it's more than enough for a street car.
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Nitrous creates an interesting scenario when talking horsepower and your perception. Since its only once in a while (and completely WOT only) it always feels like a pretty major hit. I make around 450 rwhp n/a, and 600 rwhp on the 150 shot. Since I rarely spray it feels like a lot more than just 150 extra horsepower IMO.
I love me some juice. It's like crack. I miss having a nitrous car.
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I got.to the point where on the street I couldn't make use of it so in that since the thrill became pointless. Granted 400 ftlbs of tq at 3k is still a rush no matter what, but I rarely get the chance to completely wind it out since I don't take it to the track
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500+ WHP is too scary? Nah, it's not enough for me. I'm a speed & power demon. With that said, it's more than enough for a street car.
It depends on the application, but on the street 600+ gets ridiculous. The C6 ZR1 and Viper (I don't remember the year) both where super fun to drive, but I'd rather drive them on a track than to the grocery store. I just cannot see myself driving something with that much power on a regular basis. The Viper wanted to wrap itself around a tree, but I also hated its clutch. I liked the ZR1's a lot better, I felt more in control.
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600 was boring for me 7-8 years ago.
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I've not been in a car with 600 HP, I think i'd like it... but as other's have said... it becomes almost unusable on the street.
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It all depends on how the car was built and what it's purpose was for. I've had multiple 600+ hp DD's that functioned just like a normal car would. My current is only around 670 and I've yet to have an issue. It's more fun than scary but I've yet to have the puckering moment...
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It depends on the application, but on the street 600+ gets ridiculous. The C6 ZR1 and Viper (I don't remember the year) both where super fun to drive, but I'd rather drive them on a track than to the grocery store. I just cannot see myself driving something with that much power on a regular basis. The Viper wanted to wrap itself around a tree, but I also hated its clutch. I liked the ZR1's a lot better, I felt more in control.
I had no problems driving my 500+ WHP C6Z anywhere on the street & it has plenty of cargo room for shopping trips. With that said, on normal street tires 1st & 2nd were USELESS if you wanted to get on it. On the R888s I had traction in all gears.
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It all depends on how the car was built and what it's purpose was for. I've had multiple 600+ hp DD's that functioned just like a normal car would. My current is only around 670 and I've yet to have an issue. It's more fun than scary but I've yet to have the puckering moment...
What does the SS run in the 1/4 with 630 whp?
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its not really about street ability its more to the fact that if you do let it loose its gonna end in a ticket. Small town for me so so its not about the car being un usable due to the power level its the consequences of using it arent worth it. In a larger area my perception would likely be different, but for me opening the throttle is asking for unwanted attention. Not that I havnt done it though...

I got pulled over the night I got it dyno'ed because I let it out in 3rd up an on ramp but didnt even break 80. No ticket just the usual if I see you again blah blah blah.
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Depends on car/tranny/gearing/tire
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600 will get old within about a month, depending on how much you call upon it. I only make 745, but for roughly a month after first experiencing a mid level FI car....i was genuinely scared of it and rolled around on the wastegate. This had a lot to do with it being a stick (at the time) and it would do a rolling burnout at any speed (made 820 then). After about 2 months, I was thinking I needed 4 digit power.
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600 is the new 300
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My car makes 850 rwhp right now and is about to go back in for new injectors, fuel and boost to try and and get 1000. It is all about what you are used to, 600 hp would be unbelievable to someone who has never had it and boring to someone making 1000. I thought 850 would be more than enough for me and it was, for a couple of months.
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I am at 425rwhp now with the goal of getting to 550+ rwhp next year on my 2017 Camaro SS. I think for some that 600hp is plenty, for others it gets boring after awhile.
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