Brake Setup for AutoX and Track day use
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Brake Setup for AutoX and Track day use
Hello all,
I'm building my '02 SS 6sp for the new STP autocross class.
I'm interesetd to know what brake setup everyone is using for autox and light track day use?
I was thinking either OEM blanks, or rotoworks slotted rotors, HP+ front StopTech rear pads.
Are the oem Blank rotors up to the challenge?
I'm building my '02 SS 6sp for the new STP autocross class.
I'm interesetd to know what brake setup everyone is using for autox and light track day use?
I was thinking either OEM blanks, or rotoworks slotted rotors, HP+ front StopTech rear pads.
Are the oem Blank rotors up to the challenge?
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Can't imagine that that brake setup you mentioned won't be enough for autox and light track days. Autox barely even exercises the brakes and depending on what type of road racing you do. If the courses are heavy on braking zones and you have long straights where you need to come down from 150+ to 40 you might want to upgrade to something bigger for the thermal management. Anything else you will be fine especially for a relatively light car.
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I run stock LS1 calipers with brakemotive slotted rotors (would have gone blanks if they offered them) and HP+ pads. Need some heat to bite, but a noticeable improvement over generic or even HPS pads.
Downside is they dust a GOOD amount. Even 10min daily driving you will develop a light film. After a weekend of autocross my wheels were coated. If I hit them with my hand, brake dust would fall out of the corners...
I don't do track days though.
Downside is they dust a GOOD amount. Even 10min daily driving you will develop a light film. After a weekend of autocross my wheels were coated. If I hit them with my hand, brake dust would fall out of the corners...
I don't do track days though.
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They don't handle track use well in a 3000lb car. People like them for ax, they work decent cold and heat up quickly. I never liked HP+, they have excessive bite and tend to lock wheels very easily. They also don't respond to modulation well when locked up (some pads are better than others at releasing locked wheels).
If you are willing to spend a little more money, you could get 2 sets of pads from carbotech -the ax6 and one of their xp series track pads. The ax compound works great at lower temps, and can be used on the street. If you plan to go to the road course, slap in the xp pads and go to town. Because they are based off a similar compound, you can use the same rotors and there is no need to re-bed the pads. Just swap and go. It's more expensive but there are no trade-offs.
If you are willing to spend a little more money, you could get 2 sets of pads from carbotech -the ax6 and one of their xp series track pads. The ax compound works great at lower temps, and can be used on the street. If you plan to go to the road course, slap in the xp pads and go to town. Because they are based off a similar compound, you can use the same rotors and there is no need to re-bed the pads. Just swap and go. It's more expensive but there are no trade-offs.
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If you like the Carbotechs, look up G Loc Pads. Same compounds and guys. Better prices.
I like Carbotech but switched.
I like Carbotech but switched.
They don't handle track use well in a 3000lb car. People like them for ax, they work decent cold and heat up quickly. I never liked HP+, they have excessive bite and tend to lock wheels very easily. They also don't respond to modulation well when locked up (some pads are better than others at releasing locked wheels).
If you are willing to spend a little more money, you could get 2 sets of pads from carbotech -the ax6 and one of their xp series track pads. The ax compound works great at lower temps, and can be used on the street. If you plan to go to the road course, slap in the xp pads and go to town. Because they are based off a similar compound, you can use the same rotors and there is no need to re-bed the pads. Just swap and go. It's more expensive but there are no trade-offs.
If you are willing to spend a little more money, you could get 2 sets of pads from carbotech -the ax6 and one of their xp series track pads. The ax compound works great at lower temps, and can be used on the street. If you plan to go to the road course, slap in the xp pads and go to town. Because they are based off a similar compound, you can use the same rotors and there is no need to re-bed the pads. Just swap and go. It's more expensive but there are no trade-offs.
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Unfortunately, that isn't a possibility. Dust just gets worse the more aggressive the pads gets. Some brands have easier to clean dust, though.
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The HP+ dust is easy to clean...I also don't let it sit on the wheels for long periods of time to where it starts to embed in the wheel. Takes a simple dirty towel with water to wipe it off.
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I used to run Napa Gold pads on a stock rear setup
DCT-10's with C5 Calipers on the front, and a PP valve of course
DCT-10's shoot fire, and kill rotors, but after I used them for optima road course I used them to autocross because with a little heat they were much better thank Hawk HP+
DCT-10's with C5 Calipers on the front, and a PP valve of course
DCT-10's shoot fire, and kill rotors, but after I used them for optima road course I used them to autocross because with a little heat they were much better thank Hawk HP+
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my stock brakes overheated so bad my rotors turned gold, and it boiled my brake fluid and i went off track.
i also found the CTSV front setup to eliminate my ABS issues. stock the rear would try to pass the fronts, and abs was always kicking in and fighting me. CTSV fronts eliminated all that.
light car? my SS was typically the heaviest car at every AX and road course.
just bought my 3rd set of HP+ with no plans to change. price is good too.
check out my thread, i go into great detail on my brakes
https://ls1tech.com/forums/road-raci...oes-racin.html
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While I love Hawk's street pads, I've had better luck with Carobtech's XP10 pad. Minus the dust the work just fine on the street, but on the track they really kick ***. No fade so far after multiple stops coming down from about 145 mph.