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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PA94Z
The LS6 came out in 2002.. and it came in a Z06 not an Fbody. Not like it was in a mass production vehicle like the SBF. Anyway... You LS guys get a little defensive huh?

The reply was based on Hio making a comment as if all SBFs were turds which isn't true at all. Who gives a **** if you put some after market **** on - we aren't talking a fortune here. Is it a unfair comparison I am drawing? Said built right 331/351 SBF wouldn't even race a stock head/cam LS1 car because it wouldn't even be a race.
You have a faster car then all these guys in this section and speak with real world experience from the track but you need some spray for your keyboard motor. lol. Their keyboards are straight up with the likes of Pro Mods. lol.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Lmfao look at these clowns living through Doug

But but but Doug said !

So pitiful
Seriously. I'm speechless after watching hammer jump from coat-tail riding level 7 to 10 and MAC trying his hardest to audition for the Hio crew. I wonder if they'll divulge the cult-like activities Hio makes them do...like if they pronounce Ford correctly they have to drive a 305 powered car for a week...I can't imagine.
Originally Posted by Bitemark46
You have a faster car then all these guys in this section and speak with real world experience from the track but you need some spray for your keyboard motor. lol. Their keyboards are straight up with the likes of Pro Mods. lol.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PA94Z
The LS6 came out in 2002.. and it came in a Z06 not an Fbody. Not like it was in a mass production vehicle like the SBF. Anyway... You LS guys get a little defensive huh?

The reply was based on Hio making a comment as if all SBFs were turds which isn't true at all. Who gives a **** if you put some after market **** on - we aren't talking a fortune here. Is it a unfair comparison I am drawing? Said built right 331/351 SBF wouldn't even race a stock head/cam LS1 car because it wouldn't even be a race.
So now you wanna compare a built sbf to a stock ls1? Lol are you retarded?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
You have a faster car then all these guys in this section and speak with real world experience from the track but you need some spray for your keyboard motor. lol. Their keyboards are straight up with the likes of Pro Mods. lol.

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Thanks for the heads up

Originally Posted by "MAC"
So now you wanna compare a built sbf to a stock ls1? Lol are you retarded?
It's just a little SBFturd... what a stock LS1 can't hang?

Seriously though... not sure why you don't understand what I am saying, but everyone else does?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
You have a faster car then all these guys in this section and speak with real world experience from the track but you need some spray for your keyboard motor. lol. Their keyboards are straight up with the likes of Pro Mods. lol.

-Mark
I'm not convince of the accuracy of your statement, but I concur with most of it. lol
Originally Posted by PA94Z
Thanks for the heads up



It's just a little SBFturd... what a stock LS1 can't hang?

Seriously though... not sure why you don't understand what I am saying, but everyone else does?
He just obtuse, you'll get used to him.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PA94Z

Thanks for the heads up



It's just a little SBFturd... what a stock LS1 can't hang?

Seriously though... not sure why you don't understand what I am saying, but everyone else does?
You're saying a built sbf can beat a ls1 which i would hope so, but then again so could a SBC. Which would beat both of them. Just wondering why or how you don't see that you're being retarded...

Also even a built sbf wont beat an ls1. Don't get me wrong it could with the right parts but then again you never specified. But as far as v8 small blocks Chevy wins that battle hands down.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by islander033
I'm not convince of the accuracy of your statement, but I concur with most of it. lol

He just obtuse, you'll get used to him.
Well you're being an isosceles...
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PA94Z
When you stated IRS was superior to SRA in every way...



Right around the time I posted the pathetic 5th gen "Fastest" list that had a whole 9 cars with sub 2.0 60's



What is your hate against Ford? There is MANY SBF street cars that would put a ****** hurting on your ride... It's just like the LS you love to defend by saying the setup is wrong/poorly maintained etc. Put the right parts together and a little knowledge will put a NA SBF deep in the 10's, and still drive around on the street.
Irs is superior. Like I said the only place a sra can even compete is in a straight line.

As far I can tell and I have said the 60's depends on several things. IRS or sra being about the least important. There is no clear line that sra is better than irs at drag racing....if so then this would not have happened.

Originally Posted by big hammer
not with stock heads and cam they won't stock they are downright awful.
I agree with hammer
Originally Posted by PA94Z
When was the last time Ford put a SBF in a Mustang? 95? C'mon dude the LS1 wasn't even out yet let alone a LS6...

Regardless I don't see anywhere Hio mentioning it needed to be stock heads/cam?
Dude....you're not even goin to get one to hang with a ls1......yet alone a ls6

Sure they need to be stock h/c.......Why not?? Do you really want to stoop low enough to actually admit your sbf needs a major build to even sniff a ls1 or ls6's ***?
Originally Posted by PA94Z
The LS6 came out in 2002.. and it came in a Z06 not an Fbody. Not like it was in a mass production vehicle like the SBF. Anyway... You LS guys get a little defensive huh?

The reply was based on Hio making a comment as if all SBFs were turds which isn't true at all. Who gives a **** if you put some after market **** on - we aren't talking a fortune here. Is it a unfair comparison I am drawing? Said built right 331/351 SBF wouldn't even race a stock head/cam LS1 car because it wouldn't even be a race.
They did 69 ls6 Camaros.

If you want aftermarket h/c stroker **** on your sbf it ceases to be a sbf and becomes more of your own creation. If you believe in your sbf so much use production sbf parts.

Heater's built 351 was .7 off the record bolt-on ls1, local 347 car is .4 off me, local 408 furd runs the same time as I do except I have mph on him and his car is a gutted fox.......all with major aftermarket components.
Originally Posted by big hammer
deal with it. sbf's are lame.
Originally Posted by "MAC"
So now you wanna compare a built sbf to a stock ls1? Lol are you retarded?
Yes they are retarded
Originally Posted by Bitemark46
You have a faster car then all these guys in this section and speak with real world experience from the track but you need some spray for your keyboard motor. lol. Their keyboards are straight up with the likes of Pro Mods. lol.

-Mark
This guy is another great example of furd real world experience. A built 5.4 that's .8 the bolt-on ls1 record. I comparehim to those because his car's build is similar due to a less than 3000lb weight. Still yakks though don't he.

You mean I don't have real world experience?? lol
Originally Posted by snake95
Seriously. I'm speechless after watching hammer jump from coat-tail riding level 7 to 10 and MAC trying his hardest to audition for the Hio crew. I wonder if they'll divulge the cult-like activities Hio makes them do...like if they pronounce Ford correctly they have to drive a 305 powered car for a week...I can't imagine.

Hio and his crew of cheerleaders never disappoint.
305>302

They speak for themselves. If what you said were true then you would have to be on PA's coattails also.....with cult like homo activities.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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Hio, just one question. If IRS is so much better, even at the strip, why don't dragsters have IRS?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Hio, just one question. If IRS is so much better, even at the strip, why don't dragsters have IRS?
It's not better than a SRA for drag racing. Because the addition of the u-joints the antisquat( the design element that keeps the rear of the car from dropping under acceleration), is hard to engineer into these systems. Hence the infamous "wheel hop" that destroys half shalfs nationwide.

Whereas a live axle is 1 solid piece across so the downforce can be applied evenly across.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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Hio, you obviously don't frequent the local track, or any other message boards other than GM sites. It's a funny thing about car sites where the posters are a lot of the times biased to the brand they own. You should check out YellowBullet - really big community of racers from all makes. I think you will be walking funny after making some of the remarks over there, that you make here.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:00 AM
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Yep, I'm the only one that disagree's with Hio or talks about his Hiopocrsy outside of LS1tech.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PA94Z
Hio, you obviously don't frequent the local track, or any other message boards other than GM sites. It's a funny thing about car sites where the posters are a lot of the times biased to the brand they own. You should check out YellowBullet - really big community of racers from all makes. I think you will be walking funny after making some of the remarks over there, that you make here.
Agreed. They are ruthless on there. I spend most of my time on there. If I went on there and said IRS is better for drag racing, they'd skull fvck me. haha. I love that site. lol.

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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
As far I can tell and I have said the 60's depends on several things. IRS or sra being about the least important. There is no clear line that sra is better than irs at drag racing....if so then this would not have happened.

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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LMAO. I just saw that. OMG that's sig material right there.
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There is no clear line that sra is better than irs at drag racing
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Agreed. They are ruthless on there. I spend most of my time on there. If I went on there and said IRS is better for drag racing, they'd skull fvck me. haha. I love that site. lol.

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Originally Posted by islander033
I'm not convince of the accuracy of your statement, but I concur with most of it. lol


He just obtuse, you'll get used to him.
Lol I get that. Nice cars btw.
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Originally Posted by PA94Z
The LS6 came out in 2002.. and it came in a Z06 not an Fbody. Not like it was in a mass production vehicle like the SBF. Anyway... You LS guys get a little defensive huh?
*2001

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The did 69 ls6 Camaros.
Those were GMMG specialty vehicles. No LS6 Camaro was ever put into production.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wes_33

Those were GMMG specialty vehicles. No LS6 Camaro was ever put into production.


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