Msd 6014 24x with front cam sensor?
08-09-2017, 09:16 AM
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Msd 6014 24x with front cam sensor? Has any one tryed this? I have a 24x crank with the front 1x cam. I swaped the plug ends on the 58x harness that msd gives you to fit the 24x sensor then swaped the wires to the cam and re pined the main plug to the msd box from 12v to the 5 v outlet but still get a cam sensor error in the box when I try to start it. Just wondering if anyone has got this setup running ?
08-09-2017, 09:51 PM
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It has a 24x crank sensor in it and a 06 gto front cam sensor the cam gear is the half moon style 1x is there a different sensor for the 1x up front? I cranked the car over for the first time and the msd box shows a cam sensor error code.
08-10-2017, 10:13 PM
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Ok so I went and found a black front cam sensor to swap out with the grey on that was in the car and tryed the wires to the sensor both ways and still no spark from any of the coils. I'm at a loss here the box still shows a cam sensor error when I crank the car.
08-22-2017, 10:04 PM
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mine harness just came in, 24x crank and 1x up front. I had some other issues I'm trying to correct but it's def different then what I had. old harness has 4 wires and the new one has 5. I think they said this way it's 5v or 12 v compatible. the big plug.
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08-22-2017, 10:12 PM
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interesting also that MSD had me put the Grey crank sensor (58x) on my 24x reluctor, we repinned some wires to have it at 5v and it cranked up and ran but didn't fix the issues we have. We where checking to see if I was loosing voltage to the sensor since 24x is 12v and 54x is 5v.
It took weeks of talking to them for them to tell me to check it that way too. Never knew you could do that but it ran.
It took weeks of talking to them for them to tell me to check it that way too. Never knew you could do that but it ran.
08-29-2017, 08:59 PM
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The front cam sensor harness is pinned the same for the 1x & the 4x with the top pin is voltage (5 or 12) and the bottom in signal return.
If you look inside the sensor at the pins they have a bat plus at the top and bat negative in the middle.
I have been tuning this box for a year on some heavy nitrous ls engines with good results.
All of the boxes have showed the cam fault code but as soon as the engine fires this fault goes from active to history then it can be cleared.
All the engines that I have tuned show this code with no ill affects.
I would double check all grounds I know of two guys that had the coils grounded to the valve covers and the engine would not fire up moved them to the heads and it fired right up.
If you look inside the sensor at the pins they have a bat plus at the top and bat negative in the middle.
I have been tuning this box for a year on some heavy nitrous ls engines with good results.
All of the boxes have showed the cam fault code but as soon as the engine fires this fault goes from active to history then it can be cleared.
All the engines that I have tuned show this code with no ill affects.
I would double check all grounds I know of two guys that had the coils grounded to the valve covers and the engine would not fire up moved them to the heads and it fired right up.
10-26-2017, 10:44 PM
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Ok so here's a brake down of everything I have tryed so far with no luck. 1 swaped the 24x crank end on to the 58x harness. 2 swaped the wires to the cam sensor. 3 swaped the suply voltage wire from 5 to 12v slot on large conector for harness. 4 put a resistor in the signal wire for the cam to drop the voltage from 12 to 5 (was told to do this by msd tech line). 5 was then told they male a harness so I bought that. Could have modified the stock harness to work and saved the money all they do is run the 12 supply to the crank and 5 v to the cam that's why there are 5 wires instead of 4 and still no spark. 6 pulled plugs to try and get more rpm still nothing. 7 bought a now high torque starter. 8 jump pack and jumper cables on yellow top optima. 9 moved all grounds coil grounds to back of heads and mSD ground to chassis. 10 new crank sensor and tryed both grey and black cam sensors.
I'm out of ideas.
I'm out of ideas.
10-31-2017, 12:07 PM
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So you have a 24 crank, and front cam sensor-can the 6014 rationalize a diff, or is it all either 24 or 58 rel. You would need +12 to the crank, +5 to
the cam, and A & C wouldn't swap if using the orig front sensor (rear sensor A & C are opposite)
Correct cam gear?
the cam, and A & C wouldn't swap if using the orig front sensor (rear sensor A & C are opposite)
Correct cam gear?
11-26-2017, 03:15 PM
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yes that is the way the harness is designed from msd it has a 12v to the crank and a 5v wire to the cam. And what do you mean by correct cam gear? It is a 1x from comp cams.