View Poll Results: street driving w/out front sway bar?
yes I do it-not that dangerous
260
57.65%
no-I like corner carving-it's too dangerous
191
42.35%
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street driving w/out front swaybar?
def funner with no sway bar. it makes turning that more exciting. i think the body roll is awesome, i don't now why haha. plus it helped my car lift the front tires off the ground at the track which was the only goal i had for the car
Mine is off, dont notice that big BIG of a difference only slight vibration and a little bit more weight transfer........its a drag racing thing,alot of you guys act like once you take it off your steering wheel will lock into place and be stuck forever. I dont auto cross or take turns like a dumbass in my car, thats what my future corvette will do.
If you thought your car felt like **** after you took it off your either a bad driver,have bad shocks, or your driving in unsafe conditions. And its more than 10 pounds
If you thought your car felt like **** after you took it off your either a bad driver,have bad shocks, or your driving in unsafe conditions. And its more than 10 pounds
your a fool now that your sway bar is off you might hit someone!!!!!! for some reason sway bars have magical powers to protect you from accidents according to sam strano
Don't talk to me about how cars turn Mr. Drag Racer, and I won't claim I can build an 8 second car, fair enough?
Nothing can protect a moron from an accident, but the better the car reacts to inputs the less chance of killing yourself, or worse, someone else you have. But hey, what do I know about cars and turning, balance and control?
If you notice what was said, that you quoted in your post, it was:
"i took mine off the other day only time you notice it is jerking the wheel back and forth really fast. reg normal driving is no different."
Hmmmmm. Seems to me that if something is going wrong, that quick reactions are going to come next. It's why they do lane-change tests as part of automobile testing. If you don't drive the car hard, and just drive like Grandma, then you will notice no difference. So, maybe you do drive like Grandma, that's fine. But when you goose the throttle mid-corner and the tail steps out, or little Bobby runs out in front of you chasing a ball, or a deer jumps out and you just react to avoid it the tail will indeed take off you on.
You could drive drunk every night too, never have an issue. But is it smart? No.
You guys should just learn a little about how these things work, not be so lazy, and just unhook one endlink at the track. But I guess it's easier to act like you are 14 and know everything. So fine, do it, but don't tell the world that your ignorance is the new smart.
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Since probably most of the guys who remove the front swaybar are opening themselves up to extreme/uncontrollable oversteer all seem to run crappy small front street tires and big drag radials in the rear. That's probably why a lot of them never lose control of their rear tires.
If you had a shread of knowledge about suspension dynamics you'd realize that the car falls over hard without a front bar, and at the limit that makes the rear end come around, and fast.
Don't talk to me about how cars turn Mr. Drag Racer, and I won't claim I can build an 8 second car, fair enough?
Nothing can protect a moron from an accident, but the better the car reacts to inputs the less chance of killing yourself, or worse, someone else you have. But hey, what do I know about cars and turning, balance and control?
If you notice what was said, that you quoted in your post, it was:
"i took mine off the other day only time you notice it is jerking the wheel back and forth really fast. reg normal driving is no different."
Hmmmmm. Seems to me that if something is going wrong, that quick reactions are going to come next. It's why they do lane-change tests as part of automobile testing. If you don't drive the car hard, and just drive like Grandma, then you will notice no difference. So, maybe you do drive like Grandma, that's fine. But when you goose the throttle mid-corner and the tail steps out, or little Bobby runs out in front of you chasing a ball, or a deer jumps out and you just react to avoid it the tail will indeed take off you on.
You could drive drunk every night too, never have an issue. But is it smart? No.
You guys should just learn a little about how these things work, not be so lazy, and just unhook one endlink at the track. But I guess it's easier to act like you are 14 and know everything. So fine, do it, but don't tell the world that your ignorance is the new smart.
Don't talk to me about how cars turn Mr. Drag Racer, and I won't claim I can build an 8 second car, fair enough?
Nothing can protect a moron from an accident, but the better the car reacts to inputs the less chance of killing yourself, or worse, someone else you have. But hey, what do I know about cars and turning, balance and control?
If you notice what was said, that you quoted in your post, it was:
"i took mine off the other day only time you notice it is jerking the wheel back and forth really fast. reg normal driving is no different."
Hmmmmm. Seems to me that if something is going wrong, that quick reactions are going to come next. It's why they do lane-change tests as part of automobile testing. If you don't drive the car hard, and just drive like Grandma, then you will notice no difference. So, maybe you do drive like Grandma, that's fine. But when you goose the throttle mid-corner and the tail steps out, or little Bobby runs out in front of you chasing a ball, or a deer jumps out and you just react to avoid it the tail will indeed take off you on.
You could drive drunk every night too, never have an issue. But is it smart? No.
You guys should just learn a little about how these things work, not be so lazy, and just unhook one endlink at the track. But I guess it's easier to act like you are 14 and know everything. So fine, do it, but don't tell the world that your ignorance is the new smart.
when it comes to non drag racing auto-x suspension your a genius.......for drag i consult madman, i dont drink and drive and i dont drive my car fast on the street in traffic.....i dont put myself in a situation on a public street where i have to react fast to avoid an accident(obey all laws,drive within the speed limit,doesnt drink,doesnt street race on public roads)
I realize my car handles worse with it off ,no ****! , thats common sense.......but i didnt buy it to daily drive it and go around the twistys......but what do i know? im just a grandma i dont push my car hard on public roads like you
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I only read to page 6, but here is what I dont get. Everyone KNOWS it has a negitave effect on handling, but I also think we can all agree that there are a lot of cars that will still handle worse. So if you can safely drive a car on the street that handles worse than a F-Body with no front sway bar whats the big deal. How about you just dont drive like an ******* on the street?!?! I say take it off, but know that its gonna be worse. Go out to a big open lot or something and try some manuvers to know what it can do and cant.
Sean
Sean
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From: Elgin, Il
I took mine off my Camaro, loved the weight transfer. Then I almost hit a deer in my girlfriends car. I was pretty quick to put it back on after that.
Can you drive it on the street? Yes. Does it make sense in a DD? No. Is it your own decision? Yes. Is this something everyone should do? No.
The only thing I disagree with about just unbolting one link is, yes it helps transfer weight but you still have like 20+ lbs of dead weight in the front. Still, its not too hard to remove it completely if you cut the end links a little shorter or coat them with PB blaster.
I vote:
Can you drive it on the street? Yes. Does it make sense in a DD? No. Is it your own decision? Yes. Is this something everyone should do? No.
The only thing I disagree with about just unbolting one link is, yes it helps transfer weight but you still have like 20+ lbs of dead weight in the front. Still, its not too hard to remove it completely if you cut the end links a little shorter or coat them with PB blaster.
I vote:
Since probably most of the guys who remove the front swaybar are opening themselves up to extreme/uncontrollable oversteer all seem to run crappy small front street tires and big drag radials in the rear. That's probably why a lot of them never lose control of their rear tires.
and I can lose control of the rear tires.....but I do it with throttle input.
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I only read to page 6, but here is what I dont get. Everyone KNOWS it has a negitave effect on handling, but I also think we can all agree that there are a lot of cars that will still handle worse. So if you can safely drive a car on the street that handles worse than a F-Body with no front sway bar whats the big deal. How about you just dont drive like an ******* on the street?!?! I say take it off, but know that its gonna be worse. Go out to a big open lot or something and try some manuvers to know what it can do and cant.
Sean
Sean
Couldnt have said it any better
And for the people who havent drove a car with it removed, please shut up and stop spreeding BS
You know road racing cars will get rid of the sway bars when they get into very high spring rates
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From: CHITOWN
I've driven with no front swaybar. It was pretty scary compared to having the front bar installed. The front leans more, which picks up your inside wheel in turns, and causes chaos. If you make sure you don't drive very fast on the street, then you would be ok. But if you ran into a situation where you needed the control to dodge some idiot or a life threatening situation, you would have a harder time without the front swaybar.
My vote would be to just disconnect one endlink when you arrive at the track.
My vote would be to just disconnect one endlink when you arrive at the track.
Just handled alot worse, that is all
In my F-bodies I never really noticed that much of a difference but I am a drag racer.
Now in my Sunbird its end links are gone and I need to replace them and its a little scary hahaha.
Now in my Sunbird its end links are gone and I need to replace them and its a little scary hahaha.
I have driven without the front sway bar on my f-body since 1998 when I first bought the car.
Yes it will not corner or handle as well, but I take it easy on the street anyways, driving the speed limit and taking corners at a reasonable speed, I have not had a single issue.
Yes it will not corner or handle as well, but I take it easy on the street anyways, driving the speed limit and taking corners at a reasonable speed, I have not had a single issue.