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Old 02-17-2018, 04:43 PM
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Default Roller rockers, pedestal mount: which are the most reliable?

I might get to push my plans up, and get the heads done in April. So, I need to know which pedestal/std mount roller rockers are the most reliable. All of the threads that I have looked at are over 5 years old, so I am looking for some current info....

- Heads will be Frankenstein Stage 1 243.
- Cam lift is around .590/.610
- Don't want/need stud/shaft mount rockers.
- Don't want/need adjustable.
- Must be 1.7 ratio

So... Scorpion, Harland Sharp, Yella Terra?
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For that lift, stock rockers with the bushing trunnion upgrade.
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I have read a lot on here that any lift over .6 needs roller rockers.
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I should have asked first, what type of metal are the valve guides in those Frankenstein heads? Bronze will need roller tips, the powered steel should handle the stock rockers just fine. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I should have asked first, what type of metal are the valve guides in those Frankenstein heads? Bronze will need roller tips, the powered steel should handle the stock rockers just fine. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
bronze, I assume. I got a pair of take off 243s, and those are what I am sending in.
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Stock heads will have powdered metal. And the stock rockers will be fine and that little of lift. Lots of guys run MS4’s BTR stage 4’s etc with stock rockers. You’re fine.
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As for the choice YTs always seemed to be the most popular, was always told HS are nose heavy but Trick Flow use to recommend them for their bronze guides.
I have a car I bought with a complete LME 408, has TFS as cast 220s with bronze guides & they built it with YT ultralights but it has a pretty big cam.
I'd do CHE bushings on a smaller cam.
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CHE bushing
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I ran YT for about three years DD. No failure
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Default Induction Hardened STEEL Guides

Hi TA, I would have my Steel Guides installed in your new heads (take-offs) AND use my 8mm/10mm Step Studs.

The heads will need to be tapped to 10mm, this is also Jake "tech" (10mm holes) for rocker arms.

I would use OEM S/S rockers with CHE's.

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I don't want to reuse my stock rockers, since they are almost 20 years old. Scorpion and Harland Sharp are less expensive that new stock rockers with the trunion upgrade.

It doesn't make sense to me to get stock rockers when I can have rollers for around the same price.
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
I don't want to reuse my stock rockers, since they are almost 20 years old. Scorpion and Harland Sharp are less expensive that new stock rockers with the trunion upgrade.

It doesn't make sense to me to get stock rockers when I can have rollers for around the same price.
The stock rockers are actually very good. They're lighter than pretty much every aftermarket option and since they're steel, they won't fatigue and break like aluminum. The main weakness is the trunnion, which should be replaced.
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Originally Posted by KCS
The stock rockers are actually very good. They're lighter than pretty much every aftermarket option and since they're steel, they won't fatigue and break like aluminum. The main weakness is the trunnion, which should be replaced.
But are they more reliable than pedestal mounted roller rockers?
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
But are they more reliable than pedestal mounted roller rockers?
For the cam you listed, I would say yes.
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If you really have your heart set on roller rockers, take a look at Texas Speed's roller rockers. They based them on GM's rockers and added a roller tip.
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Originally Posted by Karlw
If you really have your heart set on roller rockers, take a look at Texas Speed's roller rockers. They based them on GM's rockers and added a roller tip.
I do like those, but they are 1.72. Not worth the price plus new pushrods.
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
I do like those, but they are 1.72. Not worth the price plus new pushrods.
That extra .02 on the ratio is not going to make a hill of beans difference and you need good push rods anyway. If you enjoy changing broken rockers, get the Scorpion.
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I just calculated it. It increases lift 1%. NOT worth even thinking about! You're dissing them because of THAT?
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Originally Posted by LS1MCSS
That extra .02 on the ratio is not going to make a hill of beans difference and you need good push rods anyway. If you enjoy changing broken rockers, get the Scorpion.
I already have hardened pushrods.
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Will they be the right length after you put new rockers in, no matter who's you use?



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