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Old 06-18-2018, 12:55 PM
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He got me by a car at the end. He makes around 540-550whp. Very close race. Enjoy
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Not bad. How much weight reduction on the SS?
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Good close run!
I realize that he has heads to your cam only LS1 but I would have thought that your 100 shot and your lighter weight would have gave you enough to pull him. I did not hear either of you spin so I assume you both hooked pretty good.
Nice job though.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Not bad. How much weight reduction on the SS?
He says it weighs 3400
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
Good close run!
I realize that he has heads to your cam only LS1 but I would have thought that your 100 shot and your lighter weight would have gave you enough to pull him. I did not hear either of you spin so I assume you both hooked pretty good.
Nice job though.
He's making about 50 more whp than I am when I'm on a 100 shot. And I'm only around 100lb lighter. He pulled away exactly how 50 more whp to my car should. I was happy with the outcome. You can't win em all! He can drive damn good too so of course that helps a lot
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Originally Posted by 97TAsom
He says it weighs 3400
Unless you have weight reduction you might be a tad heavier, and combined with maybe 50 less horsepower. Is that about right probably? If so, you did pretty good considering

Edit: I just now saw the post above. I guess you have a little weight reduction as well
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Unless you have weight reduction you might be a tad heavier, and combined with maybe 50 less horsepower. Is that about right probably? If so, you did pretty good considering

Edit: I just now saw the post above. I guess you have a little weight reduction as well
All I have weight reduction wise is jack, spare tire, and front sway bar delete. It weighs 3300-3320 like this. With the rear seats and front passenger seat removed it weighed 3280. His car is about 100lb heavier and me and him weigh the same, about 200lb. He just overpowered me. Those LT1s are strong. I would've turned it up but my car has been running lean on spray and I can't figure it out. I don't have a fuel pressure gauge yet but no matter how big of a fuel jet I put in, it still goes lean when the spray comes on. I have a racetronix hotwire kit so it doesn't make sense how that's happening
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Originally Posted by 97TAsom
All I have weight reduction wise is jack, spare tire, and front sway bar delete. It weighs 3300-3320 like this. With the rear seats and front passenger seat removed it weighed 3280. His car is about 100lb heavier and me and him weigh the same, about 200lb. He just overpowered me. Those LT1s are strong. I would've turned it up but my car has been running lean on spray and I can't figure it out. I don't have a fuel pressure gauge yet but no matter how big of a fuel jet I put in, it still goes lean when the spray comes on. I have a racetronix hotwire kit so it doesn't make sense how that's happening
I run that same Racetronix kit as well. What's your AFR?
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I run that same Racetronix kit as well. What's your AFR?
On a 100 I've seen it be between 13-14.0. I've seen it hit low 15s before and that scares the **** out of me. I even rewired the fuel solenoid separately from the nitrous and made it come on a split second before spray, and I put a 42F jet in with a 62N and had the nitrous turned down to 65% with the fuel on 100% and it was still lean. Like 13.5-14.0. That sized fuel jet should have been giving me plentyyyy of fuel. I know its pulling fuel because the fuel jet is covered in gas after a pull. I've checked. I need to get a fuel pressure gauge but a 100 shot on a cam only car shouldn't be having fueling issues.
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Originally Posted by 97TAsom
On a 100 I've seen it be between 13-14.0. I've seen it hit low 15s before and that scares the **** out of me. I even rewired the fuel solenoid separately from the nitrous and made it come on a split second before spray, and I put a 42F jet in with a 62N and had the nitrous turned down to 65% with the fuel on 100% and it was still lean. Like 13.5-14.0. That sized fuel jet should have been giving me plentyyyy of fuel. I know its pulling fuel because the fuel jet is covered in gas after a pull. I've checked. I need to get a fuel pressure gauge but a 100 shot on a cam only car shouldn't be having fueling issues.
Oh wow, yeah that's dangerously high. If you're running that kind of AFR at WOT I'd hate to see what it is when the nitrous engages lol. I assume you are pulling timing one way or another?
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Oh wow, yeah that's dangerously high. If you're running that kind of AFR at WOT I'd hate to see what it is when the nitrous engages lol. I assume you are pulling timing one way or another?
That is the AFR on spray. I can't check it on motor because the gauge will cut my nitrous off if it doesn't sense enough bottle pressure and the only way for it to see that is by turning the bottle on lol. Right before it starts spraying, it's like a 12.5-12.7. It does fine on motor. And yeah I'm pulling timing with the LNC2000.
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Originally Posted by 97TAsom
That is the AFR on spray. I can't check it on motor because the gauge will cut my nitrous off if it doesn't sense enough bottle pressure and the only way for it to see that is by turning the bottle on lol. Right before it starts spraying, it's like a 12.5-12.7. It does fine on motor. And yeah I'm pulling timing with the LNC2000.
So it runs leaner on spray vs motor. Yeah thats all wrong lol. When you check fuel pressure get it off the rail. That will be the most accurate. Something is failing for you to be leaner on spray over motor. For instance I'm around 12.2-12.5 on motor and around 11.8 on a 150 shot. Is the car breaking up or anything odd?
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
So it runs leaner on spray vs motor. Yeah thats all wrong lol. When you check fuel pressure get it off the rail. That will be the most accurate. Something is failing for you to be leaner on spray over motor. For instance I'm around 12.2-12.5 on motor and around 11.8 on a 150 shot. Is the car breaking up or anything odd?
Yes I know it's supposed to be richer on spray. That's why my ******* puckers when I see it flash 15.0 lol. No not really. It pulls good. Occasionally you can hear a subtle popping noise and I'm 99% its lean detonation
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Originally Posted by 97TAsom
Yes I know it's supposed to be richer on spray. That's why my ******* puckers when I see it flash 15.0 lol. No not really. It pulls good. Occasionally you can hear a subtle popping noise and I'm 99% its lean detonation
Ok well do yourself a favor and don't spray the damn thing for now lol. Seriously though, if that AFR is truly right, you could easily lose the motor fast. Stock internals can't take much abuse
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Ok well do yourself a favor and don't spray the damn thing for now lol. Seriously though, if that AFR is truly right, you could easily lose the motor fast. Stock internals can't take much abuse
Yeah I'm not spraying it until I figure out what the hell is going on. Theres no explanation other than losing fuel pressure so what would cause that? This pump is like 3 months old
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Originally Posted by 97TAsom
Yeah I'm not spraying it until I figure out what the hell is going on. Theres no explanation other than losing fuel pressure so what would cause that? This pump is like 3 months old
There may be other possibilities but i can't think of any at the moment. If the kit is setup properly and it's functioning right then it sure sounds like a fuel pressure issue but who knows. If it were me id head over to Autozone tonight, and get a mechanical fuel pressure gauge, and see what the hell it's doing. Starting there is paramount
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
There may be other possibilities but i can't think of any at the moment. If the kit is setup properly and it's functioning right then it sure sounds like a fuel pressure issue but who knows. If it were me id head over to Autozone tonight, and get a mechanical fuel pressure gauge, and see what he'll it's doing. Starting there is paramount
I'll need a T so I can watch it while I'm spraying. I would also need a hose to run out of the car and into the cabin. I just don't see any other possibilities other than it not getting enough fuel
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Nice run....
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Nice run....
Thanks man
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Do you have a hand held tuner or HP Tuner installed on a laptop? Wondering if you could look at the fuel pressure that way...maybe even trend it. I have an interceptor gauge on my A-pillar that reads all the computer parameter via the OBD-II port and fuel pressure is an available parameter.


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