4l60e no 4th gear
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4l60e no 4th gear
I have a 2010 silvarado 4.8 4l60e i had to change the tcm . All gears shift nice it commands 4th gear but it seems its still stuck on 3rd . The rpn goes high as the speed goes high too . Theres to much load on the engine after the 4th gear if i want to speed up . What may cause this no dtc codes detected .
please find a log file attched
please find a log file attched
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I swapped another servo on and i still have the same problem .
Does it look like a mechanical problem or electric as i dont have any codes on its confusing . I have a 4l80e laying around and i may just swap that
Does it look like a mechanical problem or electric as i dont have any codes on its confusing . I have a 4l80e laying around and i may just swap that
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Yea it commands all 4 gears right . I swapped a servo so its not the servo . Checked all wires .
i had the same problem before i rebuild the transmision so i dont want to tear it down again and end up the same thing .
sometimes when it changes all gear up to 4 then stop drive again the vcm shows current gear still 4 when the speed is like 10 .
i had the same problem before i rebuild the transmision so i dont want to tear it down again and end up the same thing .
sometimes when it changes all gear up to 4 then stop drive again the vcm shows current gear still 4 when the speed is like 10 .
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I'm not very familiar with the GM TCM stuff. I've done the older GM PCM's, and Dodge ECU/TCM's.
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I think you would be better to post this in the tuning section with your log file , https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning-7/
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Performabuilt (Frank?) is being too humble when he wrote "... But since the band is both 4th and 2nd it would have to be either the servo, band clearance or stuck 3-4 shift valve IMO."
I can state unequivocally that every 4th gear problem (in the transmission) ever reported here was due to one of those issues. Usually it is the servo, a few times the OP fixed the problem with a new(ish) valve body.
I briefly looked at your log file and your tune. 4th gear is getting commanded at 39 MPH; TPS is at 35% at that moment. I do notice that according to the tune, 4th gear should not be commanded until 55 mph at 35% TPS but I might be missing a detail.
I would suggest NOT "Swapping in a 4L80E" as that is a big effort and might not even solve the problem. Be sure you are installing the 4th gear piston the correct way and that its seal is good. Worst case, you might try a different valve body.
I can state unequivocally that every 4th gear problem (in the transmission) ever reported here was due to one of those issues. Usually it is the servo, a few times the OP fixed the problem with a new(ish) valve body.
I briefly looked at your log file and your tune. 4th gear is getting commanded at 39 MPH; TPS is at 35% at that moment. I do notice that according to the tune, 4th gear should not be commanded until 55 mph at 35% TPS but I might be missing a detail.
I would suggest NOT "Swapping in a 4L80E" as that is a big effort and might not even solve the problem. Be sure you are installing the 4th gear piston the correct way and that its seal is good. Worst case, you might try a different valve body.
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Thank you guys for ur help
i changed the servo and i still have the same problem .
I have a slip 3rd gear now i am goung to rebuild the trany again i will look carfuly for the 3rd and 4th piston .
i have a code p0717 iss sensor and the speed drops untill i clear the code can i just just disable that or its a must fix so the tranny reads a speed of it . I need to get to know my exact problem to slove with the next rebuild .
i changed the servo and i still have the same problem .
I have a slip 3rd gear now i am goung to rebuild the trany again i will look carfuly for the 3rd and 4th piston .
i have a code p0717 iss sensor and the speed drops untill i clear the code can i just just disable that or its a must fix so the tranny reads a speed of it . I need to get to know my exact problem to slove with the next rebuild .
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The TCM definitely needs to read the ISS sensor; no one has ever found a "tuning trick" to disable it.
Reading everything again, is this the original 4L60E (or almost identical 4L70E) or did the transmission get rebuilt or replaced? If replaced, it has to be a unit with ISS.
Was the TCM replaced with the same model TCM? What is the TCM part number?
Reading everything again, is this the original 4L60E (or almost identical 4L70E) or did the transmission get rebuilt or replaced? If replaced, it has to be a unit with ISS.
Was the TCM replaced with the same model TCM? What is the TCM part number?
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I talked to the previous owner he said he replaced the tranny the same as the older one 4l60e . And i just rebuild the tranny 3 weeks ago or so . It has an interbal p/n switch with 17 pin conector on . I checked all wiring wire by wire all conected . Yes it has an iss sensor hust behind the oil pumb . The older tcm os 242521140235/24252955
new tcm os 242345037081/24238856
ecu e38 os 12633238
Here is a pic of the plug i have