LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

3/8 vs 7/16 rocker stud info

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Old 02-20-2019, 05:31 PM
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Default 3/8 vs 7/16 rocker stud info



For all those wondering what the difference really is, here’s a picture I took today while upgrading my valvetrain.
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Good idea. Some people probably have no idea the difference. Definetly adding some strength and eliminating some flex at high rpm
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I can't understand how a properly set up valvetrain can snap a 3/8 arp stud? I use 1.6 SA crane rr's and 3/8 arp studs with good luck so far. And my 383 used 3/8 studs with a cam in the .600 lift area with no issues.
I have heard very reputable engine builders say they have seen 3/8 arp studs snap, I just dont see how it happens with good valvetrain geometry? Regardless, my next engine build will have the 7/16 upgrade.
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7/16 will flex less than 3/8 making for a more stable valve train, especially at high rpm, on a properly set up valve train
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In my opinion, the 7/16 stud is used more to control valve float and improve stability at high rpm.

Nothing wrong with a quality 3/8 stud. This was just information I wanted to share.
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Originally Posted by 350 groundpounder
I can't understand how a properly set up valvetrain can snap a 3/8 arp stud? I use 1.6 SA crane rr's and 3/8 arp studs with good luck so far. And my 383 used 3/8 studs with a cam in the .600 lift area with no issues.
I have heard very reputable engine builders say they have seen 3/8 arp studs snap, I just dont see how it happens with good valvetrain geometry? Regardless, my next engine build will have the 7/16 upgrade.
I'm going to guess spring harmonics can cause unwanted vibrations which end up on a stud which has no way to dampen them.
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Also a worthy note, that nice sweeping radius leading to the hex on the 7/16 adds alot more strength than the other one pictured. Sharp corners promote stress and are more prone to breaking than a radius
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Talking spring harmonics. Are you referring to valve float? Improper spring tension for a given cam would cause instability. Do you think the proper springs matched to the cam with proper pushrod length would still break a 3/8 arp stud?
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Every spring develops harmonics. It’s a matter of how it deals with it whether it lives or dies a horrible death. I’m just guessing it too can affect valvetrain parts especially those which are fixed to the engine. Maybe even promote unwanted vibrations especially if a more aggressive setup is used with the smaller stud. Or as mentioned with a more aggressive setup the stud may flex making the valvetrain unstable.




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