Wiring, Stereo & Electronics Audio Components | Radars | Alarms - and things that spark when they shouldn't

Amp subs rms question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-09-2010, 10:33 PM
  #1  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
johnp94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Diego, Florida, New York
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Amp subs rms question

Hello everyone. Can i push two subs alpine type R, each in two seperate stealth boxes with this amp. 2 CHANNEL 4 OHM RMS 160 RMS WATTS X 2
2 OHM RMS 260 RMS WATTS X 2
4 OHM MONO BRIDGED RMS POWER 520 WATTS X 1
Thanks, John
Old 07-09-2010, 11:24 PM
  #2  
Launching!
iTrader: (14)
 
TZ2884's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sumter, SC
Posts: 249
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

What impedance are the type r's?
Old 07-09-2010, 11:28 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Sand84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Michigan City, IN
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If the subs are Dual 4 Ohm yes.

Here is a Diagram for you
http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/wo...s.asp?Q=2&I=42
Old 07-10-2010, 01:48 AM
  #4  
12 Second Club
 
2001-CamaroSS-LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Havertown, PA
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the type r's are dual voice...you can run them at 4 or 2 ohms...theres these jumper wires that should have come with the sub....i have two of them running at 2 ohms and each sub has its own alpine 1000 watt amp...these amps push 1000 at 2 ohms and 600 at 4 ohms...and also best to run them bridged...if you run them bridged dont bring the subs down to 2 ohms..leave them at 4...when you put two 4 ohm subs together it becomes 2 ohms
Old 07-10-2010, 07:19 AM
  #5  
Ungrounded Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
WhiteBird00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 11,085
Received 260 Likes on 224 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 2001-CamaroSS-LS1
the type r's are dual voice...you can run them at 4 or 2 ohms...theres these jumper wires that should have come with the sub....i have two of them running at 2 ohms and each sub has its own alpine 1000 watt amp...these amps push 1000 at 2 ohms and 600 at 4 ohms...and also best to run them bridged...if you run them bridged dont bring the subs down to 2 ohms..leave them at 4...when you put two 4 ohm subs together it becomes 2 ohms
Yes, the Type R is a dual voice coil sub. But no, you can't run them at 4-ohms unless you leave one coil disconnected. Two 4-ohm voice coils can be wired in parallel to produce a 2-ohm load or in series to create an 8-ohm load.

The same is true when combining two subs. Two 4-ohm subs on one channel can be wired for 2-ohms total (parallel) or 8-ohms total (series). But two 4-ohm DVC subs would need to have the voice coils wired in parallel to produce 2-ohms and then be wired to the amp in series to produce a 4-ohm total load.
Old 07-10-2010, 08:23 AM
  #6  
Launching!
iTrader: (23)
 
OSU Football Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cushing, OK
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The alpine type r subwoofers are available with dual 4 ohm or dual 2 ohm
voice coils. So the wiring possabilities are virtually unlimited.

As for the original question, the subs will both take 500 watts RMS.
So 260 watts RMS would underpower them somewhat.
But as long as it's a high quality amp they would probably still
sound fairly decent.
Old 07-10-2010, 08:43 AM
  #7  
Ungrounded Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
WhiteBird00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 11,085
Received 260 Likes on 224 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by OSU Football Fan
The alpine type r subwoofers are available with dual 4 ohm or dual 2 ohm
voice coils. So the wiring possabilities are virtually unlimited.
Yes that's true. You can get 2-ohms or 8-ohms out of the 4-ohm DVC subs and you can get 1-ohm or 4-ohms out of the 2-ohm DVC version. But you can't get both 2-ohm and 4-ohm configurations out of either one by itself as was stated earlier.
Old 07-10-2010, 09:01 AM
  #8  
Launching!
iTrader: (23)
 
OSU Football Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cushing, OK
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
Yes that's true. You can get 2-ohms or 8-ohms out of the 4-ohm DVC subs and you can get 1-ohm or 4-ohms out of the 2-ohm DVC version. But you can't get both 2-ohm and 4-ohm configurations out of either one by itself as was stated earlier.
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I wasn't trying to contradict what
you said. I just wanted to let the OP know that regardless of what
direction he decides to go there's a wiring option since the subs
are available in dual 2 or 4 ohm voice coils.

BTW, I appreciate all of the posts you make on this forum.
Your knowledge has helped me out many times.
Old 07-10-2010, 06:33 PM
  #9  
12 Second Club
 
2001-CamaroSS-LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Havertown, PA
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
Yes that's true. You can get 2-ohms or 8-ohms out of the 4-ohm DVC subs and you can get 1-ohm or 4-ohms out of the 2-ohm DVC version. But you can't get both 2-ohm and 4-ohm configurations out of either one by itself as was stated earlier.
actually you can...my two type r's are 4 ohms and im running them at 2 ohms...there are two sets of terminals on the type r...included with the sub is are 2 small banana plug jumpers that you use to jump the terminals to make the sub become 2 ohms..basically what im saying is you can make the sub parallel right on the back of the sub....alpine gives you different configs on a sheet of paper when you buy the sub.

this picture proves my point...right from the owners manual of the sub..pay attention the red circles..

4 ohm sub running at 2 ohm

Last edited by 2001-CamaroSS-LS1; 07-10-2010 at 06:48 PM.
Old 07-11-2010, 03:46 PM
  #10  
Ungrounded Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
WhiteBird00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 11,085
Received 260 Likes on 224 Posts

Default

Yes, that's correct and that's exactly what I said. Any DVC 4-ohm speaker can do that - it's basic electronics.

What I said was... "you can't get both 2-ohm and 4-ohm configurations" out of one 4-ohm dual voice coil sub unless you use only one of the two voice coils. Two 4-ohm coils in parallel is 2-ohms total (that's what is in your diagram). Two 4-ohm coils in series is 8-ohms total. There is no other way to wire two voice coils together. To get 4-ohms total you would have to connect only one of the two voice coils and give up half your power.
Old 07-11-2010, 06:37 PM
  #11  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
johnp94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Diego, Florida, New York
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Thanks for all the help. John



Quick Reply: Amp subs rms question



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:47 PM.