INSTALL GUIDE: Replacing 6.5" Monsoon Subs w/ 8" Rockford Fosgate Subs https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...0d8a86d61c.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...30312b32be.jpg This is a step-by-step guide on how to replace your 6.5” factory Monsoon sail panel subwoofers with 8” Rockford Fosgate subs. The factory head unit and amplifier are still used in my application (and provide ample bass), but you can opt to wire yours differently. I take no responsibility for any injuries or damage you may sustain/cause while performing this mod, so be sure to take precautions such as wearing safety goggles and protective gear, and disconnecting power where applicable. For obvious reasons, this install will not work on convertibles. Wiring is slightly different between Pontiacs (DVC, 4+4 ohm) and Camaros (SVC, 2 ohm), so images may look slightly different from your 4th gen. The speaker we will be using is the Rockford Fosgate Punch P3SD4-8 (do not get the P3SD2-8 unless you have an aftermarket setup and know how to wire it) which is a unique shallow-mount subwoofer. Do not attempt this install with just any 8” sub, as it likely will not fit, considering these RF subs are only 2.66” deep. Because of this, you also don’t have to worry about drilling with a hole saw for the vent hole in the center like with the Efficient Dynamics subs. Tools/Supplies Needed
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Please let me know if you have any questions or tips I should add to the write up. As for how these things sound without a sub box or aftermarket amp? I’ve actually turned the bass down to the middle detent on the equalizer, as they are pretty powerful with the right kind of music. For certain classic rock I will crank the bass all the way up to compensate (for rap, techno, and R&B, you’ll want to do the opposite). They don’t rattle or max out and vibrate like the factory subs, yet they are powerful enough to shake all three mirrors in the car even at moderate volumes. I would love to hear from any others who perform this mod and happy listening to all! |
Great write-up. How close is your speaker suspension to the B panel trim? Do you need to install a stand-off so the two don't rub on each other? |
awesome write up , this needs to be a sticky . Nice job . |
Im definitely doing this. Excellent write up!! |
Thanks for the kind words!
Originally Posted by wssix99
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How close is your speaker suspension to the B panel trim? Do you need to install a stand-off so the two don't rub on each other? If you mean the plastic trim and grill, things are tight, but with a little trimming, they clear just fine. I'd say there's a 1/4" gap at the closest spot around the edge (which oscillates less than the center), where the center has much more room. Since these speakers do not sit on an extra trim ring like the Elemental Design ones, they don't stick out much further than the factory units--they just don't tuck into the recessed flange anymore due to their diameter. |
Originally Posted by eb110americana
(Post 16733412)
If you mean the plastic trim and grill, things are tight, but with a little trimming, they clear just fine. I'd say there's a 1/4" gap at the closest spot around the edge (which oscillates less than the center), where the center has much more room. |
Originally Posted by wssix99
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This is what I'm talking about. Wondering if with the vibrating speaker and/or vibrating trim, this trim might touch or rub against the speaker suspension. (foam flexible part) This part of the speaker is what tears on the stock speakers and is the source of all the commotion they make. |
Nice, this may be a better option than a stealth box! |
Im will be doing this on my camaro this weekend. How does it sound? Is there enough airspace in there? |
Originally Posted by redssmaro
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Im will be doing this on my camaro this weekend. How does it sound? Is there enough airspace in there? |
Ok. Hopefully it fits as it did in your car. All I want is a little bass when u out the volume up. Really liked how u made it work. Again thanks for this great write up. |
Good luck and keep me posted. If you run into any snags, you can PM me as I monitor my email semi-regularly, so I should get back to you within 24 hours at most. I don't expect you'll have any problems with fitment being any different from my car as the inner sheet metal should be identical. If you still need to buy the speakers, I purchased from these guys and can vouch that they are legit (factory sealed boxes, reasonable shipping time--I have no stake in their sales, just providing an option, hopefully that is within forum rules). |
Looks like a nice setup. What rms is that speaker? |
I'd bet a pair of those little 8" RF's rock in this configuration. I thought about running a similar setup before scrapping the idea and going with a fully active setup that includes the Pioneer 80 PRS, HAT Clarus components, and separate 10" subwoofer in a stealthbox enclosure. 1 question though. No sound deadening? |
Sick write up, defiantly seems like an options for those guys not wanting to add a sub in the back but wishing for a bit more than what else is offered out there. Oh and to nit pick maybe resize that one picture. |
150 Watt RMS, 300 Watt peak, each. Yeah, no sound deadening, but that definitely would be something I'd consider for a future mod if I redid the interior. I hate rattles in the car, so I already shimmed some spots with foam tape years ago (some visible in the images). Certain frequencies can coax vibration from the plastic sail panel trim or other areas, so I may see what I can do about that if it starts to bother me. @My6speedZ: thanks for the feedback on the picture. I'm not sure what happened as it was working before (I think), somehow ImageShack reverted to the original size--still a good site though. Now that I know others can see it too, I fixed it. |
Originally Posted by eb110americana
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150 Watt RMS, 300 Watt peak, each. Yeah, no sound deadening, but that definitely would be something I'd consider for a future mod if I redid the interior. I hate rattles in the car, so I already shimmed some spots with foam tape years ago (some visible in the images). Certain frequencies can coax vibration from the plastic sail panel trim or other areas, so I may see what I can do about that if it starts to bother me. @My6speedZ: thanks for the feedback on the picture. I'm not sure what happened as it was working before (I think), somehow ImageShack reverted to the original size--still a good site though. Now that I know others can see it too, I fixed it. |
Very nice write-up. I'd like try this sometime. |
That's a real nice write up. Are you still using stock amp? |
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