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Old 07-18-2018, 07:04 PM
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Fellow LS folks, the Camaro is still involved in some surgery for boost. But I was planning on picking up a radar detector for it this summer anyways originally set on a V1, but then I started seeing some strong reviews for the uniden r3...Any strong opinions? I realize this is in no way car specific.
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Just my superstition here but I haven't gotten a ticket in ten years since I stopped using radar detectors. Three tickets while using a radar detector was enough to give them up.
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V1 has great reviews etc and it looks like a radar detector. Many members of law enforcement are less inclined to cut you some slack when they see a radar detector. In a couple of states depending on if they are radar / laser detectors they are illegal. A lot of enforcement is done with laser which is usually instant on and your nailed.

The only radar /laser detector I'm comfortable with is is the Escort one that looks like a GPS. No one pays it any attention. In most cases if one is pulled over the officer isn't going to notice that GPS unit is a dual function unit. It's expensive but it's a very good unit. With my Q5 no tickets in the last six years and it's saved my *** at least a dozen times. Of course I do use some common sense and not drive at excessive speeds.

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Originally Posted by jaxcam02 View Post
Just my superstition here but I haven't gotten a ticket in ten years since I stopped using radar detectors. Three tickets while using a radar detector was enough to give them up.
Fair point, I've had a cheapo whistler unit in the Camaro for ~3 years now and haven't gotten a ticket either, to be fair I'm usually in the Jeep which struggles to get past 70. I enjoy fiddling with the tech though and just want an upgrade.

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V1 has great reviews etc and it looks like a radar detector. Many members of law enforcement are less inclined to cut you some slack when they see a radar detector. In a couple of states depending on if they are radar / laser detectors they are illegal. A lot of enforcement is done with laser which is usually instant on and your nailed.

The only radar /laser detector I'm comfortable with is is the Escort one that looks like a GPS. No one pays it any attention. In most cases if one is pulled over the officer isn't going to notice that GPS unit is a dual function unit. It's expensive but it's a very good unit. With my Q5 no tickets in the last six years and it's saved my *** at least a dozen times. Of course I do use some common sense and not drive at excessive speeds.

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Makes sense, as far as I know they are only illegal in Virginia and DC as well as military bases...none of which affect me. I think common sense is the best tactic, but at the same time if it's dark on a highway and the speed limit drops from 75 to 55 and I miss the sign it's a nice piece of mind. Are you talking about the Max 360? That's on my list: max 360, r3, valentine 1
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I always wonder if someday all the radar guided self driving cars will turn old radar detectors into constant sirens. If they're detecting the same signal that comes from the bumpers of a tesla you'll get nothing but false hits in the ritzy neighborhoods lol
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Why worry about detecting laser when you can block it all together?

https://www.stealthveil.com/
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Valentine is sweet with the directional indicators, Definitely good stuff.

One of the things I like about the GPS Escort is it will earn about photo enforced stop lights etc. Of course is only a fair GPS mostly it's a good detector.

One the best uses of a radar detector is when a police offer responding to an accident turns on all the radar gear to provide early warning. This can really help warn the driver with the radar detector before a curve or hills etc where line of sight isn't good, that an accident or something has occurred up ahead.
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Escort 9500ix and Waze app on my phone is all I will ever need.
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I use a v1, but you will find that most of them aren't very good any more since all of the radar from cruise controls and anything with lidar will set them off. Even the best ones will false a lot. My v1 gets set off all the time from falses from lane keep and distance for cruise.
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Originally Posted by jaxcam02 View Post
Just my superstition here but I haven't gotten a ticket in ten years since I stopped using radar detectors. Three tickets while using a radar detector was enough to give them up.
I quit referring to the last time I got a speeding ticket! Seems like every time I would pat myself on the back for not getting one within a weeks time I was pulled over and cited for speeding. BAD LUCK!
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Radar detectors are okay when your in traffic. But get out on the roads at night hauling *** and nobody's around when that thing starts lighting up and screaming at you. BUSTED!
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V1??? Its not 1999 anymore lol, that detector has not been top dog for awhile. Buy a top of the line escort, or at least an escort with DSP. I would say an escort max is best budget radar detector now, could probably pick one up for around 250.
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Seven western states are about 90% Lidar, big lawsuit about cops and x/K band radar and cancer..
Its pretty much only on fixed units these days..

Using a laser jammer, can be called Evasion,, Felony ,, Not where I want to end up. IN my own mind I'm too pretty for jail..
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LIDAR is always on fixed units. It is not designed or approved for use in vehicles and can't be used through a windshield. It also can't be used at night (fear of eye damage to drivers) or in inclement weather like rain or fog because of light refraction. That and the high cost means that most police forces still maintain a lot of RADAR units - mostly Ka band.

Laser jammers are not generally illegal because light is not regulated by the FCC as are radio emissions (RADAR). And no, you can't be charged with evasion as that charge requires proof of several elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
- A peace officer in a vehicle was pursuing the defendant, who was also driving a vehicle
- The defendant intended to evade the peace officer
- While driving, the defendant “willfully” fled from, or tried to elude, the pursuing peace officer

There are a couple of states which have specifically outlawed laser jammers and New York has a bill in the works to do so but they aren't illegal in most of the country.
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Originally Posted by 5.7stroker View Post
Why worry about detecting laser when you can block it all together?

https://www.stealthveil.com/
Wow, that sounds like a load of horse S.
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Originally Posted by AnotherWs6 View Post
Wow, that sounds like a load of horse S.
It is. Someone tested it and it doesn't do anything within distances that mean anything.

http://radarandlaserforum.com/showth...Testing-Part-2

It's analogous to Chris with his vintage Iroc camaro down in Hollywood. He informed us that the Iroc is made of the same alloy metal as the stealth bomber, and as long as he waxes and washes his car everyday like they do on the stealth bomber, the radar bounces right off LOL.

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I've had a Passport 8500 for 5 years now and only received one speeding ticket, and he got me with a laser and I had laser turned off on the detector at the time. I tend to have a heavy right foot and it has saved my *** more times than I can count and has definitely paid for itself 10 fold.
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Been looking at the v1 but you need the blue tooth connection with it. Lots of noise out there today and you need a smart phone with yavi1 to exploit the caps ilties of the detector.


Detectors basically boil down now to the ability to detect a signal and then use the smart phone to monitor the signal and/or the location.
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00 View Post
LIDAR is always on fixed units. It is not designed or approved for use in vehicles and can't be used through a windshield. It also can't be used at night (fear of eye damage to drivers) or in inclement weather like rain or fog because of light refraction. That and the high cost means that most police forces still maintain a lot of RADAR units - mostly Ka band.

Laser jammers are not generally illegal because light is not regulated by the FCC as are radio emissions (RADAR). And no, you can't be charged with evasion as that charge requires proof of several elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
- A peace officer in a vehicle was pursuing the defendant, who was also driving a vehicle
- The defendant intended to evade the peace officer
- While driving, the defendant “willfully” fled from, or tried to elude, the pursuing peace officer

There are a couple of states which have specifically outlawed laser jammers and New York has a bill in the works to do so but they aren't illegal in most of the country.

Funny,, pretty much all the ones in the trooper cars in Oregon are handheld and the KA units are mounted on the car..
The Lidar guns here have a scope on them and they basically aim for your plate or headlight..

The "camera" units here are all radar (KA+)

And evasion can be covered as "Premeditated actions to elude enforcement of traffic safety" I did jury duty on one of these..
It was for a guy caught street racing, and evasion was the secondary charge. So don't know if most departments would bother
to try and ding you .. without something else in the deal..
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Okay, perhaps I should have said "stationary" instead of "fixed"... the point being that, unlike radar which can be used in a moving patrol car, LIDAR must not be moving.

But no, you are wrong about evading. You'll find that courts hold that a driver must know that an officer has issued an order to stop (by lights and sirens, hand signal, voice command, etc.) in order to satisfy the "intention" part of the crime. In fact, that's what probably happened in the street racing situation... the police showed up with lights and sirens and the racers fled. Merely equipping a car with equipment to prevent such an order does not meet the burden - you have to be ordered to stop and then fail to do so for it to be a felony. By your logic, just having a radar detector could be construed as evading - clearly a preposterous idea. If you doubt that, ask a criminal lawyer.
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